Close Up (28 April) 7.00pm. Road safety

[FJRider]

There's a lights on law coming?

Am I in the dark over this?

Meh - mine does not turn off anyway.

There are those in some quarters, that are attempting to have it introduced... another bright idea..

[Ragingrob]

There are those in some quarters, that are attempting to have it introduced... another bright idea..

How enlighting.

[AllanB]

How enlighting.

Bright spark, that was a switched on comment.

[Ragingrob]

Bright spark, that was a switched on comment.

The gods must be shining down on me.

[Gremlin]

*groan*

The light law better not be compulsory for all vehicles. Same with haz vests on construction sites. They are losing their effect due to being such a common sight.

For bikes, yes. Vehicles tend to stand out when they have their lights on, with everyone having theirs on, effect is lost.

[MSTRS:Me]

*groan*

The light law better not be compulsory for all vehicles. Same with haz vests on construction sites. They are losing their effect due to being such a common sight.

For bikes, yes. Vehicles tend to stand out when they have their lights on, with everyone having theirs on, effect is lost.

Pre-fucking-cisely!!
Barring the D+L guy's comments about CONCRETE barriers, there was nothing sensible in that story.

[Headbanger]

*groan*

The light law better not be compulsory for all vehicles. Same with haz vests on construction sites. They are losing their effect due to being such a common sight.

Can't agree, You try and spot someone not wearing one on a site in comparison to someone who is wearing one, the ability to finds them is like night and day. makes a massive difference when you have to keep people out of certain areas or make sure no one is in the vicinity, or to react when they pop up out of nowhere.

However I do think the servo-attendant putting one on to fill up my gas bottle is just a little retarded.

[Fatjim]

Did any of you good people make a submission?

Did it make a difference? no.

[Beemer]

I didn't agree with everything he said, particularly the bit about driving like you live and that poor people and old people killed themselves more often in accidents. How does he explain the recent accidents then - truckie drives over cliff; elderly couple hit when young guy crosses centre line and hits them head-on; guy clips car then hits van and four people in van die; etc.

What I worry is that if they do bring in compulsory headlight use 24/7 the fucking tossers who currently drive around with their fog lights, spot lights, warning lights, you name it lights on at all times will put theirs on full to stand out from the rest!

[Gremlin]

...However I do think the servo-attendant putting one on to fill up my gas bottle is just a little retarded.

This is precisely part of the problem. People go overboard on the haz vests, using them for just about anything. Like anything, the more common a sight becomes, the more easily it is dismissed.

I've been on construction sites. When haz vests were first required, each time you saw one it was woah! whats up. After a while, everyone has them, your reaction is no longer the same.

Things like the 3 5s make perfect sense (specifically building I guess), and haz vests should be used for guests, or stuff like that.

[peasea]

Did it make a difference? no.

So, what are you saying? Don't ever bother?

Fine attitude, that.

[peasea]

I didn't agree with everything he said, particularly the bit about driving like you live and that poor people and old people killed themselves more often in accidents. How does he explain the recent accidents then - truckie drives over cliff; elderly couple hit when young guy crosses centre line and hits them head-on; guy clips car then hits van and four people in van die; etc.

What I worry is that if they do bring in compulsory headlight use 24/7 the fucking tossers who currently drive around with their fog lights, spot lights, warning lights, you name it lights on at all times will put theirs on full to stand out from the rest!

I took his comment to mean that we do so much on auto-pilot that we tend to also drive like that. If that is what he meant then it's hard not to agree. You can't deny that often you arrive at a destination and can't recall much of the journey. (In a car that is...)

[peasea]

This is precisely part of the problem. People go overboard on the haz vests, using them for just about anything. Like anything, the more common a sight becomes, the more easily it is dismissed.

Like speeding ads on TV.

[Damon]

This is precisely part of the problem. People go overboard on the haz vests, using them for just about anything. Like anything, the more common a sight becomes, the more easily it is dismissed.

I've been on construction sites. When haz vests were first required, each time you saw one it was woah! whats up. After a while, everyone has them, your reaction is no longer the same.

Sure your reaction may not be the same but do you still see the people wearing the vests?? anything that makes other road users more visible can only be a good thing

[Gremlin]

Ok, look at it another way. Are you able to pick one hazard vest from all the others, when they are the same colour? You simply see a bunch, nothing special.

If you see one haz vest, amongst a group of people, you pay it more attention, you wonder why its there, at the very least, you give it a longer glance than all the other shirts. Why? Because it stands out, draws your attention.

Same with headlights that are on, and aren't. In fact, with a headlight being on, if a viewer is dazzled by it, a motorcycle could be hidden, as it can't block out the whole front of a vehicle, like another would therefore making a vehicle be closer to the watcher than they may think.