Wot's the Ducati difference?

**BMWST?** · 22nd January 2009, 20:24

st2,st3,st4...i notice the engines are slightly different capacaties...anything else?(as well as engine diffs please)There seem to be a hell of a lot of em for sale.

**999RDale** · 22nd January 2009, 20:28

ones a 2 valve,a 3 valve ,both aircooled and a 4 valve desmoquattro watercooled

**far queue** · 22nd January 2009, 21:23

ST4 = 916 engine
ST4s = 996 engine and lots of other goodies

**helenoftroy** · 22nd January 2009, 21:30

Originally Posted by far queue

ST4 = 916 engine
ST4s = 996 engine and lots of other goodies

Skite!!

Awesome awesome bikes,love mine more each time I ride

**mikeey01** · 22nd January 2009, 21:43

Not quite the answer one would expect given your question, I just couldn't resist

So wot's the Ducati difference?
Well, aside from it's italian background, it's racing heritage, and it's looks....it's because it's exclusive. I'll tell you how.

People who choose to ride Italian choose them for PASSION.
These are the most uneconomical, overly engineered, at times horrible electronics, and worst "bang for the buck" in motorcycles.

You ride it because you have a passion for riding it. You don't care about "I reached 280 yesterday..." or "my bike is the most comfy out of everybodies..." or "I get more HP for the dollar...".

You ride it because of it's history, it's uniqueness, and it's soul.

Jap bikes don't have a soul or character. It's the little things, the details, and the timeless design.

The 851/888/916/996/998 is reveled as a timeless design. You can still ride a 90 Ducati 851 into a group of motorcycles, and everybody will look in awe, if not in awe, for the simple fact you don't see them all over the place. Ride up to the group with a 90 Yamaha, Suzuki, or Kwak and nobody will pay any attention to you cause it's "dated". There is are exceptions, granted... such as the classics, Katana 1100 and so on.

Ducati is not for everyone (I'm not reffering to the price) but to the feeling a rider gets out of it. The torque curve is flatter, It handles nicely but it feels different. the engine sound is unique.

After riding a ducati you still dont get it or dont like it, then a ducati is not for you.

So Wot's the Ducati difference?
Take one for a ride and find out!

Ducati's

**mashman** · 22nd January 2009, 21:57

Originally Posted by mikeey01

and worst "bang for the buck" in motorcycles.

depends on which cousin you prefer sleeping with... For the same price as any litre mashine you can get the Aprilia RSVR Factory, fully kitted out with carbon goodies and ohlins stockins and sussies... good bang for buck...

Originally Posted by mikeey01

You ride it because you have a passion for riding it. You don't care about "I reached 280 yesterday..." or "my bike is the most comfy out of everybodies..." or "I get more HP for the dollar...".

You ride it because of it's history, it's uniqueness, and it's soul.

Jap bikes don't have a soul or character. It's the little things, the details, and the timeless design.

Take one for a ride and find out! (Any Italian)

Hallelullah Mikey... pushing the starter is a perfect wakeup call

**JMemonic** · 22nd January 2009, 22:06

Ok it valves per cylinder, now the kicker is the years

ST4 = 4 valves and came first
ST2 = 2 valves and came second
ST3 = 3 valves and was last

Then the ST4s well thats a 4 valve engine but not the same capacity as the ST4 it also included Ohlins suspension and a couple other goodies, strange things like ABS, the last of the range was the ST3s all the Ohlins suspension and ABS.

The ST4 had Ohlins as standard in the earlier models then they started to build them to a price so the suspensions went down a bit, still the ST3 sachs feels nice to me, it just needs a better spring in the rear as I have indulged in too much curdled dairy products.

**BMWST?** · 22nd January 2009, 22:10

Originally Posted by mikeey01

Not quite the answer one would expect given your question, I just couldn't resist

So Wot's the Ducati difference?
Take one for a ride and find out!

had one(900 s2) many moons ago,after a string of UJM.you are right,they are different.Now looking for a bike again,and there seems to be a lot for sale,wondered what the diff between the duc's was

**BMWST?** · 22nd January 2009, 22:12

great info guys,i am partially enlightened

**mikeey01** · 22nd January 2009, 22:22

Originally Posted by BMWST?

great info guys,i am partially enlightened

Sorry couldn't resist my previous post

Don't own and never ridden any ST's before.... perhaps somone who owns one might one day want to swap for a ride of my beast?

I guess point your browser to..... may help

http://www.perryr.com/DucatiSTFAQ.html

Last one I promise

I just love this one...
Stolen from www.ducatispares.co.nz

Italian bikes are about emotion.

If you want the fastest, sharpest, trickest bike on the planet, buy Japanese and follow the crowd.

But if you want a bike to stir you deep inside every time you open the garage door,
a bike you will spend hours cleaning just for the sake of it,
a bike that will make you shudder every time you hit the starter button and grin like an idiot behind a dark visor on the open road, there is none better.

**McJim** · 22nd January 2009, 22:41

I took an ST4 for a spin - compared to my wee bike its more powerful engine felt effortless - I was suddenly doing much higher speeds than I thought. Handles well too for a fairly big beastie - of course my wee six hundie is a lightweight short wheelbase hooligan so the wee duc is a bit nippier in the tight stuff.

If anything though it all felt a bit too clinical...but Winston001 will be changing his pipes soon so that should change eh?

**TLDV8** · 22nd January 2009, 22:45

Originally Posted by mikeey01

Not quite the answer one would expect given your question, I just couldn't resist

So wot's the Ducati difference?
Well, aside from it's italian background, it's racing heritage, and it's looks....it's because it's exclusive. I'll tell you how.

People who choose to ride Italian choose them for PASSION.
These are the most uneconomical, overly engineered, at times horrible electronics, and worst "bang for the buck" in motorcycles.

You ride it because you have a passion for riding it. You don't care about "I reached 280 yesterday..." or "my bike is the most comfy out of everybodies..." or "I get more HP for the dollar...".

You ride it because of it's history, it's uniqueness, and it's soul.

Jap bikes don't have a soul or character. It's the little things, the details, and the timeless design.

The 851/888/916/996/998 is reveled as a timeless design. You can still ride a 90 Ducati 851 into a group of motorcycles, and everybody will look in awe, if not in awe, for the simple fact you don't see them all over the place. Ride up to the group with a 90 Yamaha, Suzuki, or Kwak and nobody will pay any attention to you cause it's "dated". There is are exceptions, granted... such as the classics, Katana 1100 and so on.

Ducati is not for everyone (I'm not reffering to the price) but to the feeling a rider gets out of it. The torque curve is flatter, It handles nicely but it feels different. the engine sound is unique.

After riding a ducati you still dont get it or dont like it, then a ducati is not for you.

So Wot's the Ducati difference?
Take one for a ride and find out!

Ducati's

How long have you owned a Ducati ?