Hypothetical situation

**Maha** · 14th May 2009, 13:40

Originally Posted by smoky

Well hypothetically speaking; since it's a hypothetical situation, and you're asking a hypothetical question to a hypothetical supposition - then hypothetically - no it wont matter because it will all be hypothetical won't it?
Thinking purely hypothetically, of course - your comments would be a hypothetical scenario - if I'm hypothetically correct

They are indeed Hypothetical, wouldn't want to incriminate myself or any else for the matter, if indeed there were a matter to be incriminated against?

**The Stranger:Me** · 14th May 2009, 14:01

Originally Posted by Maha

Hypothetically, if a third party knows who the hypothetical person/s are in this hypothetical situation, would it be fair name them or wait till the Judge has slammed his little hammer then name them?

I don't think naming people is quite the right thing to do here Maha.
I only have one side, that said, I have always held this person in very high regard - BUT I wasn't there and don't know the full story.

No one likes a rat right, so ratting someone out is not good form.
But if I know who we are talking about who else may know or guess?
Hopefully this will encourage our friend to consider his position closely before rumours spread far and wide.

Interestingly, it wasn't at all difficult for some to guess the perp - of course they knew him, that makes it easier. So in the interests of self respect he may want to consider his reputation as obviously it preceeds him.

There is another reason I wouldn't like to name and shame either. There is as I see it a critical point (I would argue the most critical) that has not been raised in this thread. But as it has not been raised I wont address it.

**Patch** · 14th May 2009, 14:29

Originally Posted by The Stranger

No one likes a rat right, so ratting someone out is not good form.

depends how much pride one has - better to do it face to face

Everything comes out in the wash . . . eventually.

**FROSTY:Me** · 4th June 2009, 15:09

I've been putting a bit of thought into this situation Stranger.
I think there is a point where at the very least the actual guilty party should stand up and apologise to the person taking the wrap for him.
The thing is this motorcycle world is a VERY small one and I believe KARMA really does rear its head. What goes around comes around and I must say it can bite you in really unexpected ways and from really unexpected directions.
If I was the hypothetical guilty rider I'd be concidering this prety seriously.

**more_fasterer** · 4th June 2009, 15:51

Originally Posted by The Stranger

I don't think naming people is quite the right thing to do here Maha.
I only have one side, that said, I have always held this person in very high regard - BUT I wasn't there and don't know the full story.

No one likes a rat right, so ratting someone out is not good form.
But if I know who we are talking about who else may know or guess?
Hopefully this will encourage our friend to consider his position closely before rumours spread far and wide.

Interestingly, it wasn't at all difficult for some to guess the perp - of course they knew him, that makes it easier. So in the interests of self respect he may want to consider his reputation as obviously it preceeds him.

There is another reason I wouldn't like to name and shame either. There is as I see it a critical point (I would argue the most critical) that has not been raised in this thread. But as it has not been raised I wont address it.

You mean it's NOT a hypothetical situation???

**R6_kid:Me** · 4th June 2009, 15:54

Is the guilty party involved aware this thread is about him? Not like him to admit his mistakes without peer pressure from what I know.

**SixPackBack** · 4th June 2009, 17:42

Originally Posted by R6_kid

Is the guilty party involved aware this thread is about him? Not like him to admit his mistakes without peer pressure from what I know.

Grab your popcorn I'm gunna tell the coont

**FROSTY:Me** · 4th June 2009, 19:28

One other thought might be that in a hypothetical situation like this the person actually guilty might offer to stand up as a witness for the accused rider. If matters were of a serious nature.
No matter what happened the character of the hypothetical guilty party would be shown.

**Madness** · 4th June 2009, 19:34

Another thing worth considering also, in this hypothetical situation.

As I understand it, for traffic offences, charges must be files in court within six months of the offence. This being the case, should the case be heard after six months from the date of the alleged offence, the perp could potentially give evidence without fear of prosecution. Win, Win, Lose.

This thread needs more tags.

**Farab** · 4th June 2009, 20:12

He should not let his mate take the fall for him.

Just considering a different angle: How many were witness to the wrongly accused not doing anything wrong? Would it be possible for a list of witnesses to testify that the cops have the wrong person and leave it up to the cops to prove who did what hypothetically?

**R6_kid:Me** · 4th June 2009, 20:53

Originally Posted by FROSTY

One other thought might be that in a hypothetical situation like this the person actually guilty might offer to stand up as a witness for the accused rider. If matters were of a serious nature.
No matter what happened the character of the hypothetical guilty party would be shown.

Originally Posted by Madness

Another thing worth considering also, in this hypothetical situation.

As I understand it, for traffic offences, charges must be files in court within six months of the offence. This being the case, should the case be heard after six months from the date of the alleged offence, the perp could potentially give evidence without fear of prosecution. Win, Win, Lose.

Originally Posted by Farab

He should not let his mate take the fall for him.

Just considering a different angle: How many were witness to the wrongly accused not doing anything wrong? Would it be possible for a list of witnesses to testify that the cops have the wrong person and leave it up to the cops to prove who did what hypothetically?

Sounds like the way to go??? Maybe then they could be friends at the end of it...

Of course that may require that the 'perp' supplies the innocent party with some hard liquor in order to help lay away the stress this situation has no doubt caused him (or her).

**R6_kid:Me** · 4th June 2009, 20:56

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Grab your popcorn I'm gunna tell the coont

Isn't he living in Aussie? I'm sure I could take him in a bitch-slap contest.

**SixPackBack** · 4th June 2009, 21:04

Originally Posted by R6_kid

Isn't he living in Aussie? I'm sure I could take him in a bitch-slap contest.

$10 on R6_kid

**Mom** · 4th June 2009, 21:17

I am assuming, hypothetically here of course (and we all know what that can become, assuming that is) that the rider/s that may or may not have hypothetically done something that others have been blamed for (and charged with actually) dont actually have the gonads (hypothetically) to come forward and own what happened. Then again they may not have seen this thread I guess.

EDIT: or are not members, or something