Hypothetical situation

**SixPackBack** · 7th June 2009, 17:38

Originally Posted by The Stranger

Hey the KB court is in session, he's welcome to put his hypothetical defence, or he will be hung, found guilty and then tried (in that order) - in absentia.

..................................In the finest KB fashion!

I made that shit up for a wind-up

**The Stranger:Me** · 7th June 2009, 17:42

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

..................................In the finest KB fashion!

I made that shit up for a wind-up

Damn, I was looking forward to a good old fashioned roasting.

**SixPackBack** · 7th June 2009, 17:52

Originally Posted by The Stranger

Damn, I was looking forward to a good old fashioned roasting.

Why let facts muddy the water. He's guilty lets hang the fucker [or visit our local plod with the evidence?]

**Morcs** · 7th June 2009, 18:08

Posting up all this hypothetic shit is both childish and pointless.

The 2 individuals involved are both good guys, and neither are saints, and id bet on that the wrongly accused didnt keep both wheels on the ground for the entire day as well as staying below the speed limit.

However, If it were me that got off, Id be relieved. For the unwrongly accused, well, with insufficient evidence they should not be looking at any kind of punishment either.

Surely Its not like school with the cops, where the whole class has to stay behind until the guilty party fesses up - If the cops dont catch the right guy, then they shouldnt be catching anyone.

Im pretty sure ive been in the same situation. I sped past an unmarked car, the guy behind me overtook him too, and was right up my butt that the cop got his plate and not mine - I wasnt aware of it for some time, but still not certain.

**DMNTD:Me** · 7th June 2009, 18:09

Originally Posted by The Stranger

...a good old fashioned roasting.

Please tell me that there will be some 'spit' involved...

**FROSTY:Me** · 7th June 2009, 18:13

Originally Posted by Morcs

The 2 individuals involved are both good guys, and neither are saints, and id bet on that the wrongly accused didnt keep both wheels on the ground for the entire day as well as staying below the speed limit.

Ahh but would you at least contact the wrongly accused and say hey sorry bro if you knew damb well he was taking your heat?

**Madness** · 7th June 2009, 18:17

You sure as feck wouldn't expect them to get in contact and say something like this (hypothetically)....

Originally Posted by ???????

It was not my fault that you got what was coming to you and you are not going to see me owning up to something I did not do, not today not ever.

**Owl** · 7th June 2009, 18:19

Originally Posted by The Stranger

So, let's just say. You are doing dumb shit on your bike, perhaps in say a small group of mates and one of these mates gets snapped for your dumb shit and is faced with loosing their license.

Purely hypothetical of course.

What should you do?
Come forward, be the man and take the punishment.
Screw it. it's not your problem if your mate looses his license.

Is there another option perhaps?

Come forward is the only option!!!

I've being the victim in a similar situation, but I stuck by the perpetrator, knowing his failings.
I was a little less forgiving when he did the same thing 25 years later!

Unfortunately there are people out there who can't fall on their own sword. Even worse are the ones that will, but not without lobbing a few grenades in the process.

Rant over!

**SixPackBack** · 7th June 2009, 18:23

Originally Posted by Morcs

Posting up all this hypothetic shit is both childish and pointless.

The 2 individuals involved are both good guys, and neither are saints, and id bet on that the wrongly accused didnt keep both wheels on the ground for the entire day as well as staying below the speed limit.

However, If it were me that got off, Id be relieved. For the unwrongly accused, well, with insufficient evidence they should not be looking at any kind of punishment either.

Surely Its not like school with the cops, where the whole class has to stay behind until the guilty party fesses up - If the cops dont catch the right guy, then they shouldnt be catching anyone.

Im pretty sure ive been in the same situation. I sped past an unmarked car, the guy behind me overtook him too, and was right up my butt that the cop got his plate and not mine - I wasnt aware of it for some time, but still not certain.

Dude your licence has taken more hits than Elvis. Running and getting butt raped by the filth is questionable advice.

Arguments of police mistakes aside it looks likely that unless the guilty party comes forward the accused will at a minimum soak up mega lawyer dollars.

**The Stranger:Me** · 7th June 2009, 18:40

Originally Posted by Morcs

Posting up all this hypothetic shit is both childish and pointless.

I will say this Morcs. I sure found the story unpleasent and my initial reaction is that the perp should have come forward and at least assist the guy/s that got snapped.
I sought clarification of my opinion.
What I hadn't anticipated was the very strong backlash against the perp.
I don't see that it is childish or pointless to let the perp get a feel of the sentiment that is out there.
I actually think it serves a good purpose. To guide this guy and others as to what is considered acceptable by those we interact with.

**Morcs** · 7th June 2009, 19:03

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Ahh but would you at least contact the wrongly accused and say hey sorry bro if you knew damb well he was taking your heat?

I would, and in the time it happened to me, I did contact the guy. He was cool as he was in the wrong too - so spose the situation was slightly different.

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Dude your licence has taken more hits than Elvis. Running and getting butt raped by the filth is questionable advice.

Arguments of police mistakes aside it looks likely that unless the guilty party comes forward the accused will at a minimum soak up mega lawyer dollars.

Its sad that that is the case - unless their is sufficient proof, and the accused sings not guilty all day long under oath, then there is nothing to convict. But maybe im living in fairy land as ive always been guilty as sin, and bent over and let cops aim for penetration.

Originally Posted by The Stranger

I will say this Morcs. I sure found the story unpleasent and my initial reaction is that the perp should have come forward and at least assist the guy/s that got snapped.
I sought clarification of my opinion.
What I hadn't anticipated was the very strong backlash against the perp.
I don't see that it is childish or pointless to let the perp get a feel of the sentiment that is out there.
I actually think it serves a good purpose. To guide this guy and others as to what is considered acceptable by those we interact with.

Fair enough. But shouldnt be blaming the guy who got lucky and got off - we should all be blaming this stupid fucked up system of justice...

**boomer** · 7th June 2009, 19:06

i got this and laughed so much.. If it were me, i'd deny the charge and point the rozzas in this boys direction.

I've been on rides with friends where a mate was gonna get charged for speeding cos i did a runner.. i fessed up and took the hit. If i got charged for someone, proclaiming not to be my mate and telling me TUFF, i'd be singing like dame Edna... cos i don't/can't abide gutless wankers.

I don't know De*th. He is not my mate. He was pulling stunts all day and we were all amazed at his skill. He was riding a rat as bike and the cops literally chose him from a line of us. He got what was comin to him as we all do. If u expect me to stand up and say pick me pick me for something I did not do then go get stuffed. There were others involved and they have been even more silent that I have been having only been alerted of this a day ago.

**Rodney007** · 8th June 2009, 13:02

situation example:

3 ppl do bad things one day.

a cop busts 1,

that 1 should take it like a man, rather than cry for te others to own up and take some of the blame,
better one than 3, and thats unlucky

so basicaly take it,

**ManDownUnder** · 8th June 2009, 13:45

Originally Posted by Rodney007

situation example:

3 ppl do bad things one day.

a cop busts 1,

that 1 should take it like a man, rather than cry for te others to own up and take some of the blame,
better one than 3, and thats unlucky

so basicaly take it,

Alternate example, 2 people go riding, Person one does something dumb, Person 2 does not. Person 2 is snapped for Person 1's misdeeds and has to spend good $$$ to defend theirselves.

Does person 1 have any moral obligations in this situation at all?

**Maha** · 8th June 2009, 13:48

Originally Posted by Rodney007

situation example:

3 ppl do bad things one day.

a cop busts 1,

that 1 should take it like a man, rather than cry for te others to own up and take some of the blame,
better one than 3, and thats unlucky

so basicaly take it,

Rossi and Stoner FTW.