Lost confidence

[Mom]

Seriously though. How about a KB brains trust gathering at the house of the Duck to really get this sorted?

Or a BBQ gathering with prizes for the best off at the top

I will bring my First Aid Kit

[tide]

Ducky, demolish the flat downstairs! Smash a hole in the front of your house and make the entry to your gargre via the downstairs flat

now there is a plan... lol... the harley gets its own lounge and kitchen could tuck it into bed too... :P

I've seen the drive in the daylight... was bad enough trying to get my car down it...

[madbikeboy]

Mom, that answered my question. The main difference between the bikes listed is that the Harley carries its weight low, it has a very relaxed rake/steering head angle. It's going to be very senstive to off camber corners.

I'd bet that the sensation when you drop it is something like the bike kicks or flops, and you overbalance?

[MadDuck]

I'd bet that the sensation when you drop it is something like the bike kicks or flops, and you overbalance?

Its like I get to the top and its all in slow motion. Here we go...we fall over ...we fell like a dork.

[Mom]

Mom, that answered my question. The main difference between the bikes listed is that the Harley carries its weight low, it has a very relaxed rake/steering head angle. It's going to be very senstive to off camber corners.

I'd bet that the sensation when you drop it is something like the bike kicks or flops, and you overbalance?

Mike, you need to lay eyes on this driveway. Seriously, this is not just a bad camber, or a steep hill, or a tight turn, or a poorly ergonomically designed bike, or a low centre of gravity issue, this is something out of the ordinary.

I think arranging a R.O.W. up the neighbours drive and a bit of a ramp up to the level of the driveway will actually be the only sensible option here. Expensive but.

[Gubb]

KB Hillclimb event?

I must see this Drive in the uh. Flesh.

[MadDuck]

I think arranging a R.O.W. up the neighbours drive and a bit of a ramp up to the level of the driveway will actually be the only sensible option here. Expensive but.

I cant afford it. Bottom line.

[Mom]

KB Hillclimb event?

I must see this Drive in the uh. Flesh.

Right, here is a plan. Come up here on Sunday, collect fruity treats Then we can pootle down to Duckys place, and you can perve her curves

[madbikeboy]

Yeah, tricky driveway, I think my point is that the line that should be correct, may not be correct for this bike - Mom MD made the comment that she was okay on two other bikes, but not the HD.

So, I think that the line she might need to take, well, takes into account the differences of the bikes... I reckon it'd be cheaper than a new driveway...

My driveway is a cast iron MF too, I've only met two women who could reverse up it first time, one is a courier (and she's an ex race car driver), the other is a Yummy Mummy who is gifted.

Most guys turn at the bottom, then drive up forwards...

[Gubb]

My driveway is a cast iron MF too, I've only met two women who could reverse up it first time, one is a courier (and she's an ex race car driver), the other is a Yummy Mummy who is gifted.

Most guys turn at the bottom, then drive up forwards...

Real men reverse down it with the Trailer attached.

[MadDuck]

Real men reverse down it with the Trailer attached.

Blindfolded.....

[MadDuck]

I don't, bike skills is a term broadly used here, not meant undermine you or your ability, everyone else seems to be putting there 10 cents worth....yeesh

Thats because they know me and I respect their opinions

[Gubb]

Blindfolded.....

At 3 in the morning with a live bees-nest in your lap.

[madbikeboy]

Real men reverse down it with the Trailer attached.

Well, you're a biker, so driving a car is easy...

Doing it in the dark with a nice table on the trailer makes it an even better bragging rights...

[madbikeboy]

back to the point - imagine looking at the tire from behind, and where the contact patch is - if the corner is seriously off camber, then the bike (with rake and low CoG) is going to be more affected as the contact patch moves across the carcass of the tire.

So, the point is, a different line, and maybe some counter intuitive steering might help...

To the newb, when someone asks for help with humility, its best to respond with good grace. After 20 odd years, I still find situations where I need to rethink stuff, and there are often people here who can give good advice, rather than a blanket statement like bike skills. Even Rossi falls off occasionally...