500s aint all there made out to be, they are just big tractors like a big 4 stroke they dont have a real nasty power band like you would think and they dont rev out like you would think.
I still love them and you get instant respect but dont be fooled!
can you put a crazy pipe on them or something to make them more "2 Strokish"? Got a rolling chassis for a 04crf250r and iv been toying with the idea of a 500af for a while
(500s aint all there made out to be, they are just big tractors like a big 4 stroke they don't have a real nasty power band like you would think and they don't rev out like you would think.)
Like a big block V8 when you have the cubes you do not need a powerband, The powerband of a 125 X 4 would be just silly, no traction would be had and you would have no arms.
You must have flung your leg over a crap 500 if you think they do not Rev out CHOPPA. Crikey when I jump off the dirty 5 onto me mates KX250 my first thoughts are "Geez this feels no different to sister-inlaws cheap flimsy - chinese try hard motocross bike".
Choppa if you get a buzz riding 250's etc I'd say I'd seldom agree with anything you post on dirtbikes, they are so easy to ride 250's - make anyone look good. You prob into rice burner cars tooBig American cubes for four wheels for me. Cannot beat cubic inch no matter how many wheels.
As for handling - like any bike if you use common sense you can get the most out of them. Look like tanks ? Take the plastic off and they a very small bike.
Armitage - one of the three 2004's went to Timaru eh ?You checked out kxriders.com ?
Bottom line is the laws of physics - a 500 cc two stroke making power twice as quick as a 500 four stroke so no surprises Craig Hyde has left modern day four strokes for dead in Race To The Sky for years and the Burt Memorial most times - impressive given the amount of $260 a valve four strokes entered.
My point is they are nothing like the perception people have of them, they dont feel much diff to the power on a 450, they dont handle to bad considering.
I get a buzz out of riding any bike, id get more of a buzz out of riding a 500 over a 250 but i was just saying the power band on a 125 or 250 is much diff as you agreed.
If you can rape a 250 and you have a 5hundy, laws of physics say that if i get my 95kg ass on a 125 you would be able to wax me??![]()
what 250's are you talking about... F's? In that case I agree. But 250 2 strokes are not easy to ride for the less experienced, i I dont reckon they make anyone look good.
They all have their uses... 500s are for wide open. You cant tell me that you would get a kx5 through tight bush sections faster than a 250 or 450.
Yeah agree Choppa
Honda Power - I'm talking 2 stroke 250 - I must just be a naturally exceptional rider with my limited experience LMFAO.
(They all have their uses... 500s are for wide open. You cant tell me that you would get a kx5 through tight bush sections faster than a 250 or 450.)
Their intended purpose out of the factory is motocross tracks used by 250's as well, open class racing a by product.
When a 250 and 500 are on a trailer its hard to make out if there is any difference in size, as much as power has been exaggerated so to has cumbersome handling. I can stay in third gear round most tight tracks as I can faintly hear the 250 somewhere behind changing up and down all the time.
Comes down to two things - how big each ball is of the rider !
thats just cause your used to a 500... its the same with me, thought my 250f was fast, got a 250 2t, rode the 250f the other day and it might as well have pedals.
back when i was 14 or so i had a ride on a cr500 and though it handled like shit. wasnt a real ride though. flat paddok.
i guess im real picky when it comes to handling then... i think my mates kx250 is bad. And early yzfs... terrible.
i guess its just what your used to. it only goes as fast as you twist the throttle. might get a cheap one just for the hell of it sometime soon.
they would be terrible on larger jumps though wouldnt they?
CR's cannot be compared with a KX500 as the power delivery is rough which effects handling. The dirty 5 a smooth bike to ride, mines stock standard which I thik is key - wee japa man spent millions getting right recipe
Poor Handling, Jumping - where do all these pre-concieved ideas come from "young luke". What is key is getting your tyre pressuers right on the 5 hundie - 14 psi like in the book great for most work, want to test your mates out ya pump them up to 30 psi - handful in the wet stuff![]()
young luke? im nearly 19 now... iv been drooling over 500's for years and read many things on the net about them. thats where the ideas come from.
Like Choppa said don't be fooled by all yah here.
Just about 19old enough enough to be my boy - 20 years on 19
Be a good investment for you, what four stroke KTM boys pay for one valve you can do your top end. They last for years and years like a V8 without being touched. Always take it easy on one to it well warmed to look after your crank seals.
And when the vintage racing years increases they will be worth gold.
Mines a 90
KX , agree with your comments and 10 points, been riding and racing the big girls for a long time , YZ360B, then a WR500 , two brand new KX500's ( including my 39 hr '04 ) and I have a CR500 '01 stored away, still brand new ....I have to go, my missus just shouted 'Dinner ! '
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