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Hi all,
Just got some pics from Pukekohe a couple of days ago.
Is there anything obvious that I should be / should not be doing?
These pics were taken at the hairpin at the end of the back straight. I thought I was making a reasonable effort to get my weight on the inside edge of the bike when cornering but the photos seem to suggest otherwise.
any suggestions / ideas welcome.
Thanks
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considering your pegs are about 1cm off the ground i'd say no, but i'm not an expert
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Balls of your feet on the pegs.
Maybe 'lead with your chin' slightly more (hard to tell from a head-on pic).
Smile for the camera.
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
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Drop the knee out it will bring the foot closer to the bike giving you more lean angle but as viffer said hard to realy say from the photo
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dont sweat the little things mate.
body position can vary so much depending on your individual riding style.
look at pictures of the raceday yesterday -6 riders -6 body positions.
Doogal and shadey and I were out practicing on saturday and me I had my knee and peg on the ground around the hairpin,Shadey had the whole bike virtually touching down and doug had nothing touching at all --we were all going at a reasonable race pace.
Looking at the picture i would suggest maybee ya wanna move ya feet back a bit on the pegs a tadd.--but only cos ya gonna scrape ya toes shortly.
Mate Im gonna be out at pukie on the 18th --if ya want I'll be happy to lead ya round the track
--At the very least you'll see what NOT to do
In the old days guys diddn't hang off the side of the bike-and they got some pretty radical lean angles going. -if ya wanna dsee some INSANE lean angles check out psycosis sometime -he doesnt hang off he just leans the bike
Last edited by FROSTY; 3rd October 2005 at 15:35.
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could try getting your arse off the seat now, and lean your body (not the bike, looks sweet) and get your knee down with some sliders on.. then you'll pretty much be at the optimum point..
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The point of hanging off is so that the bike needn't have as much lean angle on for a given speed...right? So the old dudes not leaning off and getting mad lean would make sense.Originally Posted by FROSTY
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gee wizzz
no youre bang on the nose there dude.
point being -tyres have come a long way so has suspension.
So for most normalish use your hanging off the bike or not is really a matter of individual choice.
The first race school I went to the head instructor told me exactly the same thing.
Theres more important things to worry about.
Track position,braking points,turn in points,what gear you're in etc
I think awile ago another KB posted a story about 2 old dudes carving up a couple of guys on late model superbikes.
the superbike guys LOOKED like they were going fast--knee on the ground etc--the old dudes were GOING fast
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Yeh -dont sweat the little things mate.
body position can vary so much depending on your individual riding style.
look at pictures of the raceday yesterday -6 riders -6 body positions.
Doogal and shadey and I were out practicing on saturday and me I had my knee and peg on the ground around the hairpin,Shadey had the whole bike virtually touching down and doug had nothing touching at all --we were all going at a reasonable race pace.
Looking at the picture i would suggest maybee ya wanna move ya feet back a bit on the pegs a tadd.--but only cos ya gonna scrape ya toes shortly.
Mate Im gonna be out at pukie on the 18th --if ya want I'll be happy to lead ya round the track
--At the very least you'll see what NOT to do
In the old days guys diddn't hang off the side of the bike-and they got some pretty radical lean angles going. -if ya wanna dsee some INSANE lean angles check out psycosis sometime -he doesnt hang off he just leans the bike
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We all had different styles, obviously some work slightly better than others, but go with whats comfortable and safe, and you'll learn and experiment from there.
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I know of at least 3 guys that don't hang off and are hard work to get away from......
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Body position is something that has to be shown rather than just said. Best idea, is to put the bike up on paddok stands and have someone demonstrate the position you need to be in for each set of moves required for each corner. I count by numbers to a beat so I can get my timing right (or I sing a song).
What it does look like in the photos (by looking at the underside of your lid) is that you are looking down which is probably not a good idea, since you want to keep your balance point neutral (balance is controlled by your eyes and ears).
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2/7 nope his head is just fine --The camera angle is making it look like his head is tilted--I know that corner and it doesn't look like the picture in real life.
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I thought of that, but zoom in on pic one and check the eyes, you can see the brows arched (as far as I can make it) which means he is looking up in relation to the chin position. Its the underside of the chin thats important, it needs to be horizontal with the ground (even with the camera angle), as it orients the balance. When the chin pushes down like that it causes the upper chest to arch forward and outer shoulders to gather in putting weight down on the front (by bringing the c.g. forwards) and if too pronounced affecting forearm/elbow angle which is where you get leverage from (it looks like there is a bit of right arm/shoulder push their from the corner as well).
But since I cant see the rest of the corner and dont know it anyhow I'd have to agree with you. As I said its much better to use a chair, or stationary bike and demo the body positions, rather than trying to tell from a pic.
The intent behind my posts was more to give something to think about and then perhaps experiement with, rather than to say whats right/wrong, because body position is also a personal style/comfort characteristic as well as a setup/technique one
I ride a krappisaki - like I have body position - biggles had better tehnique than I do
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Easy - You would look significantly better if.................you were riding a Triumph.
But If I was riding a jap bike - I'd look a lot like this:
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