What is acceptable?

[Rhino]

Reading this thread, I find it a little unusual in that the person(s) baying for blood is/are not the individual who received the offensive PM.

If the PM was as bad as some would have us believe, this should be sorted in private and only three entities should be involved:

1. The recipient of the PM.
2. The moderators.
3. The sender of the PM.

Having a "discussion" on here and calling for tar and feathers will achieve bugger all.

PS: SPB, I agree with your comments re Crashe. MJS (Marsupial Justice System.)

[SARGE]

Someone PM me the offending image please?

[SARGE]

Expulsion. Ejection. Banning. Removal. Termination.

tar .. feather .. seagull treats

[FJRider]

Give him a fair hearing by his peers ... (us) ... then burn the prick ...

[jrandom]

Half of you were baying for my banning not that long ago.

Yes, but you got better.

I note that nobody has commented on the legality of the picture in question; whether it falls within NZ censorship laws, etc.

Still, either way, this sort of kerfuffle is what comes from allowing wimminfolk onto the interwebs. Nothing good can come of such libertine disregard for propriety.

[madbikeboy]

A biker site in line with societal norms is a contradiction in terms. The reason bikers are bikers is because they don't subscribe to those norms. If you do, go buy your Toyota Corolla and leave us alone.

And this site is not a community. We've been through all that. It's a web site nothing more. Once upon a time, it was a community, or growing toward being one. That got killed off. It's a web site No more, no less.

I couldn't own a Jap car if you paid me to.

Ixion - there is a sense of community. I went to the NAS ride, everyone sitting around and chatting as an extension of KB. Swarm Rides, same deal. There is a certain amount of swings and roundabouts, I've helped and been helped.

So, you're suggesting that we're all fringe elements, sitting around in caves, eating raw meat off the bone? There's a wide cross section of people here, engaged in all sorts of activities.

Respectfully, this thread got started by someone who is a good moral compass - she is holding up behaviour which is abhorrent.

[Trudes]

The sender of the image in question has not been on KB long and I don't believe has any intention of becoming a part of the "community" apart from being the village idiot.

[The Stranger:Me]

Still, either way, this sort of kerfuffle is what comes from allowing wimminfolk onto the interwebs. Nothing good can come of such libertine disregard for propriety.

Or as an alternative they could start an anti-social group of their own where they could all go and bitch and moan so it didn't spill over into the main forum.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Who remembers Crashe?.............Crashe was tried and executed online on a similar witch hunt to this. If my memory serves me correctly Crashe faced a similar one sided kangaroo court from some of the same people!
This time is questionably worse:

• We do not know the name of the defendant.
• We have no evidence.
• There is no right of reply.

If this is an online trial the least you lot could do is level the playing field, otherwise get of your collective pedestal.

Reading this thread, I find it a little unusual in that the person(s) baying for blood is/are not the individual who received the offensive PM.

If the PM was as bad as some would have us believe, this should be sorted in private and only three entities should be involved:

1. The recipient of the PM.
2. The moderators.
3. The sender of the PM.

Having a "discussion" on here and calling for tar and feathers will achieve bugger all.

PS: SPB, I agree with your comments re Crashe. MJS (Marsupial Justice System.)

Or as an alternative they could start an anti-social group of their own where they could all go and bitch and moan so it didn't spill over into the main forum.

I agree with all of these posts. What is the the site saying show us the pics or it didn't happen.

[MSTRS:Me]

1. KiwiBiker is not and has never been a democracy.

True. But there are rules that the members must follow. Otherwise we'd have anarchy.

It is my view that, while I don't want a nanny state here on KB, we should offer protection in line with societal norms.

Which is precisely what the mods are here to assure.

And this site is not a community.

KB is many things, to many people. One of those things is 'a community'. At least for those members who treat it as such.

Half of you were baying for my banning not that long ago.

And the other half still are
JR has covered that quite nicely
oh goody a renaissance?

[Cajun]

some people really need to HTFU, and take a chill pill, and get over themselfs, and get off there high horses.

Some members should also look at themselfs and there groups actions before they start whining about others actions. (this is a site problem where groups of people target other users)

But honstly this is minor end of scale, for christ sakes i know of members who have threated other memebrs of this site, with physical harm or there bikes/propierty, and they are still posted here today.

There has only ever been 4 people banned from this site totally, 3 of the 4 where banned by spank, he is the only one who really right to ban anyone, and does not really believe in banning unless nothing else can be done. the 4th was a member who was stalking his ex across the site, and whoever she talked to on the site.

Every forum world over has fuckwits/troll/idiots, just like real life, and honstly most of these people do it get a rise out of people, and when you bite thats what they wanting, and then the continue.

And honstly this is between the mods, the person who sent the pm, and the person who recieved. No one else period.

Its being dealt with by the mods.

Thats the end of it.

If we banned everyone that a group of people did not like, the member list of this site would be half of what it is, and not the dymanic site it is today.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

some people really need to HTFU, and take a chill pill, and get over themselfs, and get off there high horses.

Some members should also look at themselfs and there groups actions before they start whining about others actions. (this is a site problem where groups of people target other users)

But honstly this is minor end of scale, for christ sakes i know of members who have threated other memebrs of this site, with physical harm or there bikes/propierty, and they are still posted here today.

There has only ever been 4 people banned from this site totally, 3 of the 4 where banned by spank, he is the only one who really right to ban anyone, and does not really believe in banning unless nothing else can be done. the 4th was a member who was stalking his ex across the site, and whoever she talked to on the site.

Every forum world over has fuckwits/troll/idiots, just like real life, and honstly most of these people do it get a rise out of people, and when you bite thats what they wanting, and then the continue.

And honstly this is between the mods, the person who sent the pm, and the person who recieved. No one else period.

Its being dealt with by the mods.

Thats the end of it.

If we banned everyone that a group of people did not like, the member list of this site would be half of what it is, and not the dymanic site it is today.

Well said and to true oh wise one. . Moving on.

[Maha]

I agree with all of these posts. What is the the site saying show us the pics or it didn't happen.

Well said and to true oh wise one. . Moving on.

You do remember the Crashe thread eh? and what you guys had to say about it at the time? I have just had a read of the first few pages of that thread and can I suggest you do the same?

If either of you had received the moving image of...lets say 'a close up of a mans cock rooting a kids doll' ...truthfully, how would you feel?

That is, in my book, way over the line.
And for Cajun to say ''this is minor end of scale'' is pretty fucked, wheres your head at Neil? you have seen the image right?

Moderators, do you will with this post I dont give a shit!

[Mrs Busa Pete]

You do remember the Crashe thread eh? and what you guys had to say about it at the time? I have just had a read of the first few pages of that thread and can I suggest you do the same?

If either of you had received the moving image of...lets say 'a close up of a mans cock rooting a kids doll' ...truthfully, how would you feel?

That is, in my book, way over the line.
And for Cajun to say ''this is minor end of scale'' is pretty fucked, wheres your head at Neil? you have seen the image right?

Moderators, do you will with this post I dont give a shit!

I would report it to a mod put the person concerned on my ignore list and move on. I would not want someone else putting a post up on my behalf if i don't have the balls to do it myself.

[Lula]

Name and shame.

What if he (she) turns up to a ride with one of these horrific pictures!