Suggested punishments for a theif...

[James Deuce]

Then you could sit on him.

Or better still, you and Jrandom BOTH sit on him. Farrrkk! He'd think twice then.....

...Said girly arms.

[jazbug5]

At the risk of this turning into another Scottish thread (and I know you're a cuddly soft big pussy, really, Jim... and the rest a yas, too...!) but...

has anyone here read Jimmy Boyle's autobiography, 'A Sense Of Freedom'?
He was considered the 'Most Dangerous Man In Britain' (a real Glasgow hard man in the old tradition) and is now an award-winning artist.
He spent most of his life in the system, from Borstal at a really young age- like 11 or something - right up until his mid 30s. What changed?

They put him in an experimental wing. It wasn't a soft arse option by any means; but they started to challenge their behaviour (from memory, read this ages ago) and treat them like humans. It worked for him: the kick arse option didn't. Obviously there was more to it than that, so read the book. It's really interesting.

There will always be exceptions to the rule- whichever rule you like to think of. I hate folk using the system to get a soft ride, too; it helps no-one, least of themselves- which is why you need wily people watching that they don't.

Anyway, what was I saying?

Oh, yes: aaargh! Och nooo.... it's no me, it's ma heid....
Grrrochmacuddoch ya wee hoor...

[Lou Girardin]

At least you'll get a laugh from meeting the family. Any predictions on what they'll be like?

[James Deuce]

(giant snip)
Oh, yes: aaargh! Och nooo.... it's no me, it's ma heid....
Grrrochmacuddoch ya wee hoor...

Now that's more like it.

[ManDownUnder]

... ahem...

any chance of staying on topic... just a little... please?

[James Deuce]

I'd like a nice Monteith's Summer about now.

[James Deuce]

There are quite a few good resources on the Internet.

This one reflects a generic organisational reform process that most judiciaries seem to be adopting in one for or another.
http://www.oijj.org/doc/documental_1187_en.pdf

Stephen Biddulph has some great ideas in his book called "Raising Boys" about how to keep boys on track. I'd actually drag the boy's father in, and if at all possible talk to him about a strategy for managing this kid. Sounds like he is pushing boundaries, but more likely he is also trying to attract "someone's" attention.

[MSTRS:Me]

Supposedly these Family Group fuzzies are great.....my personal experience is that they are a complete waste of time. Type up a really professional looking invoice for the $55.00 plus a 'few incidentals' like interest, lost wages, mental stress, etc - present that to the little bastard & have him read it out. (if he is even literate). Then kneecap 'im

[WINJA]

HE NEEDS PAIN TO LEARN , CAN YOU PAY A RUGBY MATE TO SPEAR TACKLE HIM FUCKIN HARD , AND WHEN THE GUYS IN PAIN FOR HIM TO SAY "YOU OWE MY MATE A DEBT I WONT TELL YOU WHO MY MATE IS BUT I SUGGEST YOU PAY UP FAST" BET YA GET YOUR MONEY. UNFORTUNATLY THE DAYS ARE GONE OF THE COPS GIVING OUT A THICK EAR.

[jazbug5]

There are quite a few good resources on the Internet.

This one reflects a generic organisational reform process that most judiciaries seem to be adopting in one for or another.
http://www.oijj.org/doc/documental_1187_en.pdf

Stephen Biddulph has some great ideas in his book called "Raising Boys" about how to keep boys on track. I'd actually drag the boy's father in, and if at all possible talk to him about a strategy for managing this kid. Sounds like he is pushing boundaries, but more likely he is also trying to attract "someone's" attention.

Excellent, Jim. Just read that document, and it's well worth taking the time. They'll have their work cut out trying to have those strategies implemented throughout all the member states, I'd say; a lot of sensible ideas/recommendations/observations there, though. Will look out for the book.
(Have a look, Mandownunder, if you haven't already..)

[MOTOXXX]

What about a big stick?
that'd learn him

[ManDownUnder]

There are quite a few good resources on the Internet.

This one reflects a generic organisational reform process that most judiciaries seem to be adopting in one for or another.
http://www.oijj.org/doc/documental_1187_en.pdf

Stephen Biddulph has some great ideas in his book called "Raising Boys" about how to keep boys on track. I'd actually drag the boy's father in, and if at all possible talk to him about a strategy for managing this kid. Sounds like he is pushing boundaries, but more likely he is also trying to attract "someone's" attention.

Cool - thanks.

I know of Stephen Biddulph's work so I'll look out for that book.

Not a bad idea to get Dad in there, unless he's going to scoff and undermine the whole thing... hw do you find that out ahead of time though?
MDU

[Biff]

Stephen Biddulph's books are excellent, and funny. You realise what a shit parent (well I did) you are when you read his books. Although he goes out of his way to make you feel normal. It is normal to beat small children with dead poultry isn't it?

I'm with the 'make sure he brings an adult' crowd. Although this could backfire if the adult concerned is a scumbag as well.

[Bounty]

I like the old style punishment of putting people in the stocks, for them to be publicly humiliated, and then rotten food at them. I wonder what it would do now......

[Ixion]

I like the old style punishment of putting people in the stocks, for them to be publicly humiliated, and then rotten food at them. I wonder what it would do now......

from the Koran

The Glorious Qur’an says in Surah Maidah:

"As to the thief, male or female, cut off his or her hands:a punishment by way
of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power, full of wisdom." [ Al-Qur’an 5:38]

Yep. That's the way to go. Old ways are often good ways