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    Where are all the 'different' bikes these days

    Where are all the different /unique/ innovative bikes these days. In a time when we perhaps have more bike choice than any generation before us, when you get down to the nitty gritty details they are much of a muchness aren't they?

    The case 1: In a well known bike spot in Englandshire a woman said to me " ok, I'll be interested, what is it about this particular bike that is so good?" she waved her hand in the direction of the forty or so bikes parked up in a line. "Which one do you mean?" says I. "these, you've all bought the same bike, there must be something good about them" She genuinely thought she was looking at forty identical bikes just in different colours. To a biker it was obvious that there were umpteen different models/brands/capacities. She was a none biker for sure but doesn't she have a point, even the most anal of us, looking from a distance, wouldn't be able to tell one sports bike from another parked in a line.
    Yes I know the K9 has 3 more horse power than the k2 or that the GSX is .5 of a second standing quarter faster than the R1 but aren't they pretty much the same thing?

    2: Cruisers, just how many v twin american style cruisers are there in this world, look at Yamahas line up, 10 or so vtwin heavy, low slung, looky likeies, Suzuki the same. without a model designation, I couldn't tell them apart in a magazine much less on the road. Stick HD and the others in the equation and you've got, I dunno, maybe 100 bikes that are essentially the same.

    History is littered with innovative bikes, most of them failures popularity and sales wise but I do miss them. Yamaha GTS 1000 Hub centre steering, Suzuki GT 750, 3 cylinder water cooled two stroke The original Vmax, v4 with yummy Vboost, R5 rotary, all them troublesome turbos, cbx and Benelli six cylinder monsters and my particular favourite and very popular as I recall, the CX500 plastic maggot, an across the frame vtwin for the masses, sold millions then dropped like a stone. loads more that my shite memory won't recall.

    If it doesn't make money from a business point of view, it ain't worth making, I accept that but it's a bloody shame, whilst it is almost impossible to buy a bad bike these days, I find it increasingly difficult to find a bike that I can lust after, that is a country mile different to all the others.

    Top of my head produces the Triumph rocket, that's it, can you think of any more that aren't just a fraction faster or better looking than the hundreds of other similar bikes.

    This ain't a rant, just a chat, has everything new in the bike world been done before, in ten years time are we still gonna be looking at a line up of brand new R1s and Gixxers. Anyone got a crystal ball?
    Oh bugger

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    ...and there in a nutshell is one of the biggest reasons I have for loving my Lammy. There's not another one exactly like it in the country...
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    The only truly innovative bike in the last 20 years would be the Britten. Somebody holds the patent rights and is not using them...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    ...and there in a nutshell is one of the biggest reasons I have for loving my Lammy. There's not another one exactly like it in the country...
    Hardly a nutshell MD, a bit long winded even if I do say so myself but your on it, I lust for anything different, lammys are cool btw.

    Do you think this is why all the old fellas get moist when a Norton commando or a can am trike rolls into town, not because it's a great bike, though it may well be but because it just stands out as something different and interesting.
    Oh bugger

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    I would like to see some of these Lazareth Triazuma trikes on NZ roads...

    Comparison:
    Triazuma
    R1 1000CC liquid-cooled 4-stroke DOHC 16 valves engine
    170HP (unrestricted)
    weight 453Kg's

    Can-am Spyder
    1000cc BRP-Rotax V-twin 8-valve, dual-cam, fuel-injected engine
    106 HP
    weight 316 kg

    Am getting pricing on one and also checking import and road registering costs...
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    Without experimental with the turbos etc etc.... how do you find out what works and what doesn't?

    some people want something a bit more exclusive a bit different to other bikes, the turbo bikes for example came with a hefty price tag...

    I don't like any bike stock, there has never been a single bike i have looked at and gone "perfect" i always know what i want to change the moment i see it.

    Why have the exact same as everybody else?

    Biking is about freedom to me, my bike has to be the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drogen Omen View Post
    I would like to see some of these on NZ roads...

    Am getting pricing on one and also checking import and road registering costs...

    It looks like somebody crashed a z1000 into a segway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drogen Omen View Post
    I would like to see some of these on NZ roads...

    Am getting pricing on one and also checking import and road registering costs...
    Why? It's just something else to get stuck in traffic on.
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    hahaha thats one reason i bought my ol pd......i bet there only ever be one in the bike park,and love or loath the BMW twins ARE different

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    You must live in a different world to me.
    I enjoy the wide diversity of vehicles on the market today.

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    From what I've read here and there it's really an economic thing. Radical styling and technology doesn't sell too well usually,see Yamaha GTS with its James Parker RADD suspension for example.

    That said, there is some more avant garde stuff out there if you have the cash, wakan, confederate etc, Buells and some of the BMW models are definitely interesting.

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    It looks like somebody crashed a z1000 into a segway.
    More like a Yamaha R1 mate... R1 Ass, R1 Engine, 17" mags and some fiberglass... so that makes it 40% R1 and 60% Other....!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Why? It's just something else to get stuck in traffic on.
    Because its different... isn't that what this post is about...???

    I already have my Street fighter (Buell Lightning XB12Ss) for lane splitting... but maybe on Saturday or Sunday I want to ride something different... The Lazareth Triazuma is just that, something different...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drogen Omen View Post
    I would like to see some of these Lazareth Triazuma trikes on NZ roads...


    Comparison:
    Triazuma
    R1 1000CC liquid-cooled 4-stroke DOHC 16 valves engine
    170HP (unrestricted)
    weight 453Kg's

    Can-am Spyder
    1000cc BRP-Rotax V-twin 8-valve, dual-cam, fuel-injected engine
    106 HP
    weight 316 kg

    Am getting pricing on one and also checking import and road registering costs...
    Well it sure is different, an amazing looking thing, viva la difference I say.

    Quote Originally Posted by skidMark View Post
    Without experimental with the turbos etc etc.... how do you find out what works and what doesn't?

    some people want something a bit more exclusive a bit different to other bikes, the turbo bikes for example came with a hefty price tag...

    I don't like any bike stock, there has never been a single bike i have looked at and gone "perfect" i always know what i want to change the moment i see it.

    Why have the exact same as everybody else?

    Biking is about freedom to me, my bike has to be the same.
    Well said Mark, I think that's how we all get round it, buy something mass produced and make it our own even if it's only in a little way.

    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    hahaha thats one reason i bought my ol pd......i bet there only ever be one in the bike park,and love or loath the BMW twins ARE different
    There ya go, maybe we don't deserve radically different bikes, to much of a gamble for manufacturers to put something out that the masses are too conservative to accept, witness the trike above, maybe not my thing but worthy of a long inspect and chat whilst sipping a coffee at the roadside surely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    You must live in a different world to me.
    I enjoy the wide diversity of vehicles on the market today.
    I'm glad you've come on board, I value your opinion as a man of the people with an insight into the way things are done in the 'business' and yes we do live in different worlds unfortunately.

    Can you offer anything that is radically different to everything else. I'm really keen on that new Thunderbird but I'm willing to bet it'll be similar to the America/speedmaster, bigger engine, maybe more get up and go but will it change the way people think about cruisers, faster than a vmax? handle as well as buell, kill of BMW tourers because it's simply the best touring motorcycle ever made, I doubt it me old mate, just another big cruiser, looks good and goes well but nothing to write home about, mores the pity.

    Set my biker taste buds afire BD, anything in the pipe line worth selling my house for?
    Oh bugger

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    Set my biker taste buds afire BD, anything in the pipe line worth selling my house for?
    How about some of these Lazareth Custom Modified bikes... hahahaha

    Lazareth Dokujya - Honda VTR1000
    Lazareth SWE - Yamaha VMax
    Lazareth - Ducati Monster 1000

    Now that's customizing to the extreme....!

    sorry bout the Lazareth stuff... just been stuck on their website for a couple days perving at all the sexy bikes...
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    And now for something completely different: Victory Vision. DN-01. Spyder. BMW Megamoto. KTM SM990. Honda Predator. Speed Triple. Granpasso. 1125CR. XB12X.

    A Goldwing makes a great cruiser too - as well as the Rune.

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