Telecom XT and Vodafone rip off

[discotex]

Woo... 200MB. Is this 2009?

Umm the article says there will be data plans up to 3gb. The point is the 200mb plan will be 66% cheaper than Vodafone What is wrong with chopping 2/3 off the price of data?

The 200mb plan is what most people with phones will use to surf Trademe/Facebook or whatever. If you have a datacard get a bigger data plan. Even the current plans are pretty decent at ~$50 for 1gb and another $11 for 2gb (without having to change plans).

Assuming the new XT plans are better again what's your problem?

[spacemonkey]

The point is the 200mb plan will be 66% cheaper than Vodafone What is wrong with chopping 2/3 off the price of data?

Yup but for how long?

Introductory offer..... The price will go up, and people with a multi year contract will cop it.

[discotex]

Yup but for how long?

Introductory offer..... The price will go up, and people with a multi year contract will cop it.

Guess we'll find out in a week or so eh.

[Winter]

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/telecom...-little-102634
There will still be no roaming between the two networks even though they use the same technology.

They don't use the same technology. The use different technology.
Vodafone dont sell any handsets afaik with 850MHz 3G WCDMA support so you cant roam that way. It looks like Telecom will be selling handsets with 850/2100MHz WCDMA and also 850/900/1800/1900MHz GSM support, the theory being you can roam now to about 205 countries from XT.

Vodafone would never agree to a one way roaming agreement. Perhaps, in 5 years, If VF sell XT compatible handsets they might agree to something like that. But for now no VF handsets (some iphones excluded) will work on the XT network.

[Brian d marge]

Done got me the Iphone

unlimited internet and free calling 2 family members cost me 6000 yen a month including the cost of the phone

In the first day I reach my cap, then it clicks over to unlimited.

using skype will bump the data up a bit and I use skype a lot ,,hello mum ! and of course you tube when I am on the train !

Still at least NZ doesn't lie about their speeds , here they advertise 100Mbps and i get a MAX of 30 ( 1.5 international )


Stephen

[The Stranger:Me]

I can even make telephone calls on my mobile

So you're not with Vodafone then I take.
Apparently voice is unimportant for a mobile phone network. Usually takes me 2 or 3 tries to complete any given call, between calls being dropped and talking being clipped so much as to make conversation impossible.
I note also there is a large delay in speach arriving when you do get a line clear enough to use. So much so that people regularly think the other person has finished and so proceed to talk over one another.
Oddly enough, we had some of the first Motorola brick phones in the country. The system at that time worked flawlessly, assuming you were in coverage.
But I guess that's progress.

Mind you it's Auckland, you can't expect them to have good coverage or resources in the largest city.

[Dave Lobster]

You should complain about that..

I'm on my phone half the day, and never have a problem with distorted speech or clipping..

How old is your phone? Are you using the 3G network where available, or the old 2G one?

[Pussy]

So you're not with Vodafone then I take.

That's correct, I'm not.
I have found telecom mobile works better in the rural environment, where I spend most of my working day.
Many will disagree, but to me, so long as I can make and recieve calls and texts, I'm happy. I don't know how to use half the features my phone has, and I don't need them

[boomer]

..and hopefully match CDMA for geographical coverage.

sorry mate but you're talking out ya backside.

[boomer]

So you're not with Vodafone then I take.
Apparently voice is unimportant for a mobile phone network. Usually takes me 2 or 3 tries to complete any given call, between calls being dropped and talking being clipped so much as to make conversation impossible.
I note also there is a large delay in speach arriving when you do get a line clear enough to use. So much so that people regularly think the other person has finished and so proceed to talk over one another.
Oddly enough, we had some of the first Motorola brick phones in the country. The system at that time worked flawlessly, assuming you were in coverage.
But I guess that's progress.

Mind you it's Auckland, you can't expect them to have good coverage or resources in the largest city.

try a differenet phone mate.

[Edbear]

sorry mate but you're talking out ya backside.

PLease explain?

[boomer]

I've heard that argument dozens of times. There are many other countries with similar or smaller populations who have better and cheaper telecommunications costs.

teh country that NZ compares itself against is Ireland Scratcha.. equal (ish) in population, density and geographic nature. you'll find both the coverage, quality and cost equal.

plus teh fact NZ is still a 3rd world country.. no matter how u wrap it up ..??!

[bungbung]

They don't use the same technology. The use different technology.

As long as you're talking 3G, WCDMA is WCDMA.

The difference is the frequencies used.

Telecom XT is on 850 nationwide, and perhaps 2100 in the main centres.
Vodafone is 900 and 2100.

Not many Voda phones will have 850 support.

[Taz]

I still find it alot easier to make a call while out and about than when I was a kid in the 70's. you could only get 4 feet away from the base set then and then the cord went tight and dragged the phone off the hall table. Stop your moaning, you don't know how lucky you are.

[scracha]

As long as you're talking 3G, WCDMA is WCDMA.

The difference is the frequencies used.

Telecom XT is on 850 nationwide, and perhaps 2100 in the main centres.
Vodafone is 900 and 2100.

Not many Voda phones will have 850 support.

My point is that the gubbernment shoud have forced them to use shared frequencies and support roaming. That's why other countries with "sparse populations and difficult terrain" have cheaper calls as it lowers the telco's investment costs. There are phones that support 850 and 900 but they're normally expensive quad band handsets (vodafone do have them). Telecom chose 850 when most of the world's handsets use GSM900. Very few other countries (I can't think of any but I'm sure someone will correct me) use 850 and 900 simultaneously so it's simply a way of preventing us having cheap handsets (from abroad) and throwing in a different SIM cards when we're out of coverage or more importantly, are out of contract and get pissed off with one particular provider's service.

Am I correct in thinking Telecom were forced by our own stupid government regulators into giving up GSM900 to Vodafone?