VMCC's greed

[MOTOXXX]

small price to pay for a shit load of fun.

i dont think its that bad realy. try racing at pacific class. entry is about the same but they dont use transponders. in comparison for organisation, pmcc look like a monkey fucking a football.

try racing at wanganui. its $90 per CLASS

[roadracingoldfart]

Fuck i hate when people mouth off about shit they have no insight on.
Heres just a few points.

The marshals are paid and given food and travel assistance.
Its only $10.00 per cross entry.
The track hireage fee is huge for the club .
Ambulance fees have to be paid for them to attend all day.
The transponder money has nothing to do with Vic Club.
Its run by vaulenteers (sp) just for you to have a venue.
The option is to stay at home and save your money.

If you have the feeling of being ripped of then why dont you ask the committe to explain it to you instead of just starting a waste of time thread on this site, disruptive talk kills hobbies so easily so think about it.
Hell welcome to life buddy , it aint fair is it.
Are you a member of Vic Club? and if not, join and stand for the committee , they still need a few committe members to help out with running and holding the biggest , best run event on the motorcycling calendar.
Id like to ask what your reasons to enter the Vic Winter Series was and if you dont like the program then why did you send any money to enter.

[GIXser]

Fuck i hate when people mouth off about shit they have no insight on.
Heres just a few points.

The marshals are paid and given food and travel assistance.
Its only $10.00 per cross entry.
The track hireage fee is huge for the club .
Ambulance fees have to be paid for them to attend all day.
The transponder money has nothing to do with Vic Club.
Its run by vaulenteers (sp) just for you to have a venue.
The option is to stay at home and save your money.

If you have the feeling of being ripped of then why dont you ask the committe to explain it to you instead of just starting a waste of time thread on this site, disruptive talk kills hobbies so easily so think about it.
Hell welcome to life buddy , it aint fair is it.
Are you a member of Vic Club? and if not, join and stand for the committee , they still need a few committe members to help out with running and holding the biggest , best run event on the motorcycling calendar.
Id like to ask what your reasons to enter the Vic Winter Series was and if you dont like the program then why did you send any money

to answer your question
i entered when i didnt know there was gonna be 216 entrees (youre right i wouldnt have ,had i known!)
ps by all means introduce yourself on the day!!

catch ya there..

[GSVR]

I have no problem whatsoever with the Vic Club making shitloads of money as this will be put back into the club and sport.

The only concerns with the large entries are how well equipped the organisation is for copeing on raceday (but no doubt we will all find out on Saturday) and the quality of the racing for competitors.

[GIXser]

C'mon now Ed, dont make me call your proby officer.

So there's a shit load of entries, and a lot of money changing hands, I'm not sure if you've noticed bro, that's how life works. Someone has an idea, others like it, and pay to do it.

Dunno how much profit VMCC makes out of it, but if it's substantial, I think maybe the marshals should get something out of it. They give up a lot of time to do it.

And ya do get a free track day out of it, if you're a VMCC member ya know.

dude totally understand, but i think its got out of hand. its just too many people, and youre right Marshalls should and i believe (do) get paid
there are a lot of costs involved in running an event like this, but as i say i think its way to many entrees...
ps i f they dont pay their marshalls out of the money it would be criminal!!!

see ya there buster

=Sketchy_Racer;1095180]Bad call man.

Honestly if you don't like it don't come. Obviously the other 215 people think it worth thier value.

Or IF you think the meeting is run badly, Why don't YOU step up to the mark, and offer help rather than have bitch about it??

Vic club do a great job at running a race series, hence it is now very popular. Clubs like these are what the country needs to get the MC racing scene back to health.

-Sketchy Glen

Hmmm, where did i say it was run badly ( read the thread first)
have no problem with the club apart from too many entrees......which in turn means 6 lap races or less

[scott411]

Fuck i hate when people mouth off about shit they have no insight on.
Heres just a few points.

The marshals are paid and given food and travel assistance.
Its only $10.00 per cross entry.
The track hireage fee is huge for the club .
Ambulance fees have to be paid for them to attend all day.
The transponder money has nothing to do with Vic Club.
Its run by vaulenteers (sp) just for you to have a venue.
The option is to stay at home and save your money.

If you have the feeling of being ripped of then why dont you ask the committe to explain it to you instead of just starting a waste of time thread on this site, disruptive talk kills hobbies so easily so think about it.
Hell welcome to life buddy , it aint fair is it.
Are you a member of Vic Club? and if not, join and stand for the committee , they still need a few committe members to help out with running and holding the biggest , best run event on the motorcycling calendar.
Id like to ask what your reasons to enter the Vic Winter Series was and if you dont like the program then why did you send any money to enter.

agree 100%,

i would presume anyone starting a thread like this has never actually helped a club run a meeting, get off your ass like the rest of the voluneteers down their and help a club, don't winge about it,
the only reason their is so many riders is because they run a good meeting, if they didn't people would not turn up

[Grub]

hmmm let me do the calculation 160 x 75 bucks and another 56 cross entered x 20 bucks ( roughly)+ transponders hire when is enough enough... lets have 300 people enter cos then the event organisers will fly in by private jet.. and wont have to bother driving their bentley...

It's posts like this that make me just want to say fuck it, why bother giving up my time. Perhaps this poster will stay away and make us all (including him) happy.

The transponders are nothing to do with the club, they are privately provided and funded. Perhaps if we do away with them this poster will give up his days to sit in the timekeeping box with a clipboard and stopwatch all day. Or of course, the club could just not bother with timing - that'd save time money and effort.

BTW dood, the club doesn't make a profit. The money goes back into racing and the equipment that supports the event. Like the 15 radios that help keep the circuit and everyone on it safe plus all the gear you see in the trailer PLUS how do you think the club funds the Scholarship for new riders, including bikes for them!

As you've discovered, all the other posters in this thread get it - thanks to them. Bah ... why am I wasting my breatth!

[GIXser]

It's posts like this that make me just want to say fuck it, why bother giving up my time. Perhaps this poster will stay away and make us all (including him) happy.

The transponders are nothing to do with the club, they are privately provided and funded. Perhaps if we do away with them this poster will give up his days to sit in the timekeeping box with a clipboard and stopwatch all day. Or of course, the club could just not bother with timing - that'd save time money and effort.

[COLOR="Red"]Bah ... why am I wasting my ......breatth!

yes why did you??

asfor the marshalls i am tottaly appreciative of their efforts to say the least!!!

update#### i have been informed that the marshalls cant get paid due to Osh's rules and regulations and i totaly accept and understand the implecation having had dealings with them myself#####

and for the record i am more than happy to marshall for a day to play my part provided entrees are kept to a certain level,,,

[HDTboy]

provided entrees are kept to a certain level,,,

mmmm, food.

What would you suggest to reduce the numbers of competitors?

Why would you want to reduce the number of competitors? Bit selfish isn't it?

I'm keen to see you get through a 6 lap race at Manfeild in 6 minutes.

I'd love to see racing occur more often, in order to thin the feilds a bit. If that was my aim. Perhaps you could encourage another club to run a winter series in the opposite weekends to Vicclub, so those with shitloads of money can race every fortnight, and the rest of us can race in one series
Personally I love having 30+ bike feilds

[bistard]

mmmm, food.

What would you suggest to reduce the numbers of competitors?

Why would you want to reduce the number of competitors? Bit selfish isn't it?

I'm keen to see you get through a 6 lap race at Manfeild in 6 minutes.

I'd love to see racing occur more often, in order to thin the feilds a bit. If that was my aim. Perhaps you could encourage another club to run a winter series in the opposite weekends to Vicclub, so those with shitloads of money can race every fortnight, and the rest of us can race in one series
Personally I love having 30+ bike feilds

Well,this used to happen,back in the days when the Suzuki series was about & was run by Tim Gibbes & the Vic Club almost folded,due to lack of entries,support & that was where the karts got invloved,to bolster numbers

[Nicksta]

hmmmm.....
I think the question GIXser raised is with so many bikes and entries, how do we get quality racing time for our money? If i pay my money and enter my class, drive down, spend on accommodation and other costs, only to not qualify in the top 35 as there are too many entries, what are you to do?
with a track day, entries are somewhat limited, how about limiting entries per class on a first in first served, with an allowance for no shows and crashes on the day, for optimum participation of the keen racers?

I guess at the end of the day, you have a maximum number of bikes in a race and a maximum number of classes and races per day, maybe we just have to do the math and figure out maximum number of entries?

[Flyno]

The vic club do an excellent job at making the rounds go smothly for us, and its better enjoying the day then winging bout not getting long sessions!
we all have to deal with it aswell!
More people bring the sport out of the dark for the rest of nz to enjoy

[Deano]

hmmmm.....
I think the question GIXser raised is with so many bikes and entries, how do we get quality racing time for our money?

Go nuts on the track.

[bistard]

Go nuts on the track.

Settle down there "Young Fella"
You just let us old guys keep up OK!!

[HDTboy]

hmmmm.....
I think the question GIXser raised is with so many bikes and entries, how do we get quality racing time for our money?

The faster everyone rides, the quicker the race schedule will be worked through, the more laps we can have in each race, or if everyone goes really really fast we might get an extra race each.


Simple: Ride faster