Secret trials begin in NZ?

[Shadows]

Or maybe it's because New Zealand is at the arse end of nowhere and nobody could be bothered coming all the way here?

Well, yeah.. that too.

[Dave Lobster]

who trusts the French anyway?

NOBODY!!!!

[peasea]

NOBODY!!!!

Not even on July 14?

[avgas]

How is it is secret court case if everybody knows about it?

[Scouse]

He should have been on the very next plane back out of here

[MD]

Bloody parasite. It just stuns me that there are people gullible enough to think he has the right to be here AND have tax payer funded lawyers provided to invent a 'right' for him to stay here.
It is irrelevant why he left his homeland. I suspect a few hundred million Chinese & Indian peasants would like to live here given the chance. Luckily for our limited land mass and resources they all can't sneak in. So why should AZ get away with it?
No doubt I would be comfortably living in any of Donald Trumps flash houses but guess what. I can't just sneak into one and claim squatter rights.
These &%$@ Liberals need to stop trying to make us feel a guilt trip for all the world's woes.

[Delerium]

He's not on trial - He's having his security certificate reviewed by a QC who is privy to the SECRET evidence against him.

Sure the guy is having a rough ride, and it's a damned fkin shame if he's innocent of all accusations against him. So thank fuck someone is actually reviewing the actual threat this guy poses, and decide whether there is indeed sufficient evidence to confirm his security risk certifcation. And if he's innocent then all the better. Free man. Nice.

When something is SECRET or classified in any way it should remain just that, else informants/operatives lives or other source of intelligence gathering capability may be put in danger of being compromised should said secret information run any risk of identifying the source of any available evidence.

Nobody here, or anywhere else in New Zealand who doesn't need to know what evidence, if any, they have against him, doesn't know what's what, so they shouldn't jumpt to any conclusions without knowing the facts. Which we don't. If that makes sense.


I'm pissed again. Monteiths's Celtic tonight. $7.30 a pint. Robbing bastards

Nice though.

And I'm on holiday tomorrow. Which is just as well.

Seconded, the drams involved in getting a security clearance are well involved. Why the hell should any joe bloggs get access to classified information. Its classified for a reason.

[Delerium]

I don't believe the government would risk the bad press generated by the situation unless they had a damned good reason to bypass "normal" legal process for the sake of national security.

Nobody seems to realise that the reason that the Rainbow Warrior thing stands out in people's minds so much and is always used as an example of terrorism on our soil is because it was the only time anybody actually managed to carry out something like that. For that reason I think we should have a bit more faith in our intelligence services.

I say that all of those sandal wearing poncho draped hairy armpitted lesbian vegetarian professional student anti-smacking bill supporting neighbourhood watch group organising do gooders, that insist on living on, and forcing upon every body else, a set of idealogical bullshit values derived from some fantasy world, who protest for the sake of protesting without any real factual knowledge of the situation at hand should just fuck off.

Bring out the tear gas and rubber bullets!

You and me are going to get on real well. In auckland? Ill buy you a beer!

[Sollyboy]

Justice or not Ahmed needs to be sent home asap , his costs so far would have paid for 100 hip operations or helped to give a proper course of herceptin to many good hard working kiwi tax payers , the fact that he is a suspect is enough evidence for me to have him arse holed on day 1,take it personally people its your tax dollars being wasted on this sandy but crack

[doc]

I'll just jab this wound again........

The abortion of justice that is the Ahmed Zaoui case began yesterday in a trail as farcical as it is unjust. Ahmed Zaoui, a democratically elected politician in Algeria who fled his country after the French supported a military coup against his Government is on trial in a secret case where he will face secret evidence that he can not defend himself against. As red necked talkback NZ howl that a dirty Muslim is allowed in the country and they hop up and down about the taxpayer money spent they of course never mention that secret evidence from the French (the only government to have actually committed a terrorist attack on our shores) is being used in a secret trial that should make every N Zer deeply ashamed of their legal system. This abortion of Justice continues today, God Defend NZ.

You just stirring or if you are serious why don't you start a group to raise funds to reimburse the NZ public for the cost this whole affair . I'm sure I there is nowhere in the world you could enter illegally and then get so much support to fight the system that is trying to evict you. This PC crap has to end

[geoffm]

Correct meif Iam wrong, but wasn't he living in malaysia for 3 years with his family, with no problems? Why not apply for citizenship there?
He can go back there any time he wants, we have paid millions of dollars to his lawyers already. Sod 'im
Geoff

[peasea]

You good people are so right! Why don't we pass a hat round, buy wee dinghy, two oars and put AZ in it. Then give it (and him) one swift kick in the direction of his homeland and save ourselves millions. (That we can give to a deserving dole bludger.....)

The whole thing makes me want to puke!

[peasea]

You and me are going to get on real well. In auckland? Ill buy you a beer!

It'll be a pretty full bar I'd say!

[Shadows]

You and me are going to get on real well. In auckland? Ill buy you a beer!

It'll be a pretty full bar I'd say!

Sounds like the next time work has me on an overnighter up there we'll have to jack something up.

[DougB]

I am ashamed that my country that has held this man for so long, it is a disgrace.

This review should have been over in days not years.

I dont care if he is guilty or not he should have been dealt with promptly. I hope a method for dealing with future cases immediately has been devised.