Auckland harbour bridge crossing?

**SixPackBack** · 26th May 2009, 07:09

I walked over the southbound clip on in 1970-something?........the Maori land march was an opportunity at the time for many to cross. My intermediate school teacher took the opportunity and our class did the walk.

My recollection of that day was the walk being stopped at the top of the bridge as the clip-on swayed visually, accompanied by loud creaking. As a lad I was very scared.

The bridge was built in the UK by Dorman Longs, assembled on a field, then broken down and shipped to NZ-my grandfather helped in its construction! Originally the bridge was designed as having an extra four lanes but the NZ government in its stupidity decided to cut costs and remove four lanes. As a result the centre section of the bridge is arguably overbuilt and certainly solidly. The clip-ons are another story. Not long after, realising the bridge could not cope with traffic volumes the Japanese built the 'nippon clip-ons'. Cleverly designed and executed the clip-ons used a higher tensile steel to provide extra lanes without excessive weight. Unfortunately for at least the last 20 years the surface of the clip-ons have buckled and cracked. Ongoing maintenance has seen many efforts to fix the problem with limited results.

The centre span is safe, could last a very long time given maintenance and technological modifications. The clip-ons are questionable at best. The authorities are aware of the clip-ons short comings hence the various attempts to limit vehicle weight and flow.

In regards to pedestrian access: slinging a lane under the main span is the best and only 'real' option. Placing pedestrian access on, in, or attached to a clip-on is never going to happen. 'Marching' [as I found out on the Maori land march] results in the creation of harmonic frequencies that destroy bridges-this is widely known!.......and while having a few people cycle or walk the bridge everyday, the creation of a 'bridge run' [like round the bays] would be a real danger to the bridges destruction.

**Pixie** · 26th May 2009, 11:07

Originally Posted by motorbyclist

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2436...Harbour-Bridge

dumb cunts - do they really expect a non-taxed means of transport to be given a several million dollar walkway that then need ongoing maintenance and security, clipped onto one of the clip ons on a bridge with an uncertain future?

i doubt even 10% of those "protesters" would actually use that walkway as part of a commute

there's already been put in place all the bus lanes and places to stow your cycles, so that people from all over the shore can realistically cycle a sensible distance before bussing into work.

if they want fast/cheap and reasonably clean transport, an fxr150 will get over the bridge fine

Like the hordes of cyclists that use the North Western cycle path every day - not.

**Squiggles** · 26th May 2009, 11:17

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

'Marching' [as I found out on the Maori land march] results in the creation of harmonic frequencies that destroy bridges-this is widely known!.......and while having a few people cycle or walk the bridge everyday, the creation of a 'bridge run' [like round the bays] would be a real danger to the bridges destruction.

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Only the harbour bridge goes a bit more up and down from memory

**Indiana_Jones** · 26th May 2009, 12:05

Fucking cunts.

I can understand what they want though, a walkway on the bridge would be a nice idea, make it under the bridge, not on the fucking clip on!

If they get the bloody thing they novelty will wear off in 2 months and when it's winter they won't use it!

EDIT: ok build it for them under the bridge, but toll it for the next 10 years to pay for it. $1/2 one way?

-Indy

**The Pastor** · 26th May 2009, 12:07

Originally Posted by Pixie

Like the hordes of cyclists that use the North Western cycle path every day - not.

actually, there are tons of people who use this on a daily basis.

**Morcs** · 26th May 2009, 15:45

Police shouldntve got involved.

Just let 80kph traffic across the bridge, people have to move out of the way or get run over. sorted.

**Morcs** · 26th May 2009, 15:48

Oh and particularly, where the feck is this walkway going to go on the bridge?
The lanes are narrow enough as they are - the few times ive driven the cage over ive felt like im gonna scrape a truck on one side, and a barrier on the other. They spent heaps putting more lanes in already...

Why dont the fuckers just use the ferry over to bayswater or the bus?
Cyclists shouldnt get shit specially for them until they pay rego.

**Swoop** · 26th May 2009, 15:56

Originally Posted by Morcs

Oh and particularly, where the feck is this walkway going to go on the bridge?

They wanted an entire lane converted to "lycra-clad-tosspots and pedestrians only".
For some reason I received an irate message from their website, when I objected to their waste of taxpayers dollars. Fucking strange, eh?

They had the sevice of a "bus + trailer for their bikes" combination some years back, but they didn't support it. Now the fuckers want to spend multi-millons of taxpayers dollars and add to the traffic cockup?
Retards.

**Morcs** · 26th May 2009, 16:25

Originally Posted by Swoop

They wanted an entire lane converted to "lycra-clad-tosspots and pedestrians only".
For some reason I received an irate message from their website, when I objected to their waste of taxpayers dollars. Fucking strange, eh?

They had the sevice of a "bus + trailer for their bikes" combination some years back, but they didn't support it. Now the fuckers want to spend multi-millons of taxpayers dollars and add to the traffic cockup?
Retards.

Exactly.

What right do poor people have to get to work quicker than us?

**Scouse** · 26th May 2009, 17:06

The Police Managment fucked up badly in my opinion. inspector kelly should be busted back down to a cuntstuble for not having enough police present to stop these ignorant fuckers from holding up the traffic.

**peasea** · 26th May 2009, 17:10

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

Fucking cunts.

I can understand what they want though, a walkway on the bridge would be a nice idea, make it under the bridge, not on the fucking clip on!

If they get the bloody thing they novelty will wear off in 2 months and when it's winter they won't use it!

EDIT: ok build it for them under the bridge, but toll it for the next 10 years to pay for it. $1/2 one way?

-Indy

Exactly. Bikers and motorists pay all the bloody bills and cyclists get what they want for free? I don't think so Jim. Toll the bastards!

**peasea** · 26th May 2009, 17:12

Originally Posted by Scouse

The Police Managment fucked up badly in my opinion. inspector kelly should be busted back down to a cuntstuble for not having enough police present to stop these ignorant fuckers from holding up the traffic.

Cunt stubble? that's a 3-day old Brazillian isn't it?

Did you see Supt Bill Searle on Close Up? He was "proud" of the police action.

More like inaction.