Bain, what's the answer going to be?

**98tls** · 5th June 2009, 19:08

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Was thinking, maybe he could use the jersey to do a Persil whiter than white advert....

See KBs taking this case apart thread by thread.

**James Deuce** · 5th June 2009, 19:11

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

So still a conspiracy then?

No. Listen very closely. They made cocks ups and have admitted to them. Never blame conspiracy when cock up will do.

**Grahameeboy** · 5th June 2009, 19:11

Originally Posted by smoky

Man your head is so far up your own arse .......
It's one thing to express a point of view as to if he should get compensation or not, but comparing him to a patched gang member!!! What a...

Sorry but Marty is right...not guilty is not guilty who ever you are and the same rights available should be provided...

**oldrider** · 5th June 2009, 19:13

Do you think the jury took into account that it was Friday and anything but a quick decision would mean another stuffed up weekend?

Now "they" (the jury and David) are free and out of there!

Justice New Zealand style.

Hmmmmmm.

**Grahameeboy** · 5th June 2009, 19:13

Originally Posted by James Deuce

No. Listen very closely. They made cocks ups and have admitted to them. Never blame conspiracy when cock up will do.

Well it may have started as a conspiracy....

**James Deuce** · 5th June 2009, 19:17

Originally Posted by chucky19

Tampered with?? If investigators have a crystal ball and can plot every step they make into a scene with no care given to finding out if people are dead or not, or if someone with a gun is still actually in the scene then they can go into a scene and not 'tamper'. Unfortunately they don't.

A large chunk thrown away?? He had been found guilty and the Court of Appeal had dismissed his appeal. The investigation happened 14 years ago and things were a lot different back then forensically. The evidence thrown away had very little chance of being useful after 14 years anyway, the DNA would more than likely have completely degraded. As with the blood stains on David they would just have been explained away after being analysed, he would have 'remembered' doing things to suit the results. Experts that Karam employed that didn't agree with his version were ignored, how's that for being unbiassed.

Not Guilty may be a reference, but it's a far cry from not being culpable.

I'll accept that you are thick, I don't know if I have to forgive you for it.

Perhaps David and Chris Kahui could start a club - I hope they wave.

A bit bitter aren't we? Part of the reason the prosecution case didn't stand up is because the quality of the evidence presented was dubious.

I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. We weren't on the Jury. We didn't see the full picture. The cornerstone of our legal system is trial by jury. Part of that is also accepting that a jury may make a decision that you don't like.

**James Deuce** · 5th June 2009, 19:19

The only conspiracy I'm interested in is the one where beer keeps disappearing from my fridge. I bet David Bain and Joe Karam did it!

**smoky** · 5th June 2009, 19:20

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Sorry but Marty is right...not guilty is not guilty who ever you are and the same rights available should be provided...

If they spent 13 years in prison for a crime they have been found not guilty for, no problems

My point was why make the comparison

**Oakie** · 5th June 2009, 19:25

Originally Posted by Deano

Is your cousin on facebook too ?

Dunno. He is now a District Court Judge though so he probably has the brains to arrange that.

**elevenhundred** · 5th June 2009, 19:27

Originally Posted by smoky

Bullshit they did

Yeah they did, didn't you see the TV coverage when the cop was getting reamed out by the defense on why they destroyed it.

**Grahameeboy** · 5th June 2009, 19:28

Originally Posted by smoky

If they spent 13 years in prison for a crime they have been found not guilty for, no problems

My point was why make the comparison

So you agree with his comparison which is what is was??...glad we got that resolved...

**Guzza** · 5th June 2009, 19:28

Reasonable doubt. Theres things that dont seem to fit on both sides. One thing that did come out of the retrial was the sloppyness on the part of police in how they processed the scene and gathered their evidence. They themselves admit they could have done alot better.

Given a different case, I cant help thinking that level of poor practice would be enough to have it thrown out.

**98tls** · 5th June 2009, 19:34

Originally Posted by Guzza

Reasonable doubt. Theres things that dont seem to fit on both sides. One thing that did come out of the retrial was the sloppyness on the part of police in how they processed the scene and gathered their evidence. They themselves admit they could have done alot better.

Given a different case, I cant help thinking that level of poor practice would be enough to have it thrown out.

I blame the weather,no normal member of the public lives in Dunners so it goes without saying that no cop worth there salt would ever consider working there,futhermore DB took this into consideration and all things considered decided 12 years in the big house a small price to pay

**sinned** · 5th June 2009, 19:34

Interesting poll on kiwiblog http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/ where 74% consider David did it. That is off course a different question to "guilty beyond reasonable doubt".