David Bain's "I shot the Prick" 111 call?

[YellowDog]

Delivering papers can be very tough.

Some of the dogs bite!

[Skyryder]

I don't mind anyone acting on their beliefs and Karam has done just that.

In a strange sort of way I believe the world would be a lesser place without the Karam's but having said that it is Joe Karam who has won..........not David Bain.

I still hold the view sooner a guilty man free than an innocent one banged up.


Skyryder

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http://www.listener.co.nz/issue/3493...angry_man.html

I read that at the time it was published - doesn't really explain his motives for becoming so deeply involved. I think he's done it to regain some sort of public profile (ex All Black, successful lawyer etc etc). The way he refers to himself in the third person as well as the fact that he continually talks about this as being his own battle rather than Bain's tell me that it's the personal crusade of a Narcissist

I wouldn't be surprised if, at first he thought Bain to be innocent and has since changed his mind. He strikes me as the kind of person who wouldn't care either way. Too busy feeling personally vindicated

[Indoo]

I'd agree with that from reading that interview amongst others he's done, its pretty funny how that journalist exposes him for what he is.

I just wonder when or if he will ever let the 'innocent' man actually speak for himself.

[hospitalfood]

Bain is innocent. the fact that there are muppets on here who believe otherwise is sad.
all you "bain is guilty" crew, are you really so stupid you cannot imagine another way he got bruises and scratches ? maybe fainted after finding his whole family dead ? I pity your parents!
have you considered the possibility the dad changed his clothes ?
do you really think your single opinion is more valid that 12 opinions of others who know the facts ?

if you think he is guilty, you are very fucking stupid! and i suggest you kill yourself as a service to the rest of the world. and don't leave a mess !!! or do it before your son comes home from his paper round !!!

[steve_t]

Why is this still in the news? If they decide he did say "I shot the prick" will there be a retrial?
It should be over and done with... until he's shown on Dancing With The Stars

[scumdog]

Bain is innocent. the fact that there are muppets on here who believe otherwise is sad.
all you "bain is guilty" crew, are you really so stupid you cannot imagine another way he got bruises and scratches ? maybe fainted after finding his whole family dead ? I pity your parents!
have you considered the possibility the dad changed his clothes ?
do you really think your single opinion is more valid that 12 opinions of others who know the facts ?

if you think he is guilty, you are very fucking stupid! and i suggest you kill yourself as a service to the rest of the world. and don't leave a mess !!! or do it before your son comes home from his paper round !!!

So....who DID kill them all then Sherlock??

And your evidence to support your idea on who the real killer is????

[short-circuit]

Bain is innocent. the fact that there are muppets on here who believe otherwise is sad.
all you "bain is guilty" crew, are you really so stupid you cannot imagine another way he got bruises and scratches ? maybe fainted after finding his whole family dead ? I pity your parents!
have you considered the possibility the dad changed his clothes ?
do you really think your single opinion is more valid that 12 opinions of others who know the facts ?

if you think he is guilty, you are very fucking stupid! and i suggest you kill yourself as a service to the rest of the world. and don't leave a mess !!! or do it before your son comes home from his paper round !!!

A few more points for you to consider:

David Bain not guilty............

Right o so therefore the defence case that Robin Bain was the killer must be true then eh??

To be the killer you'd have to accept the following.......


It was a lucky guess when David Bain told 111 ambulance officer they are all dead, despite later saying he only saw two bodies

Again a lucky guess hen DB told police officer they are all dead

The 25 minute gap between DB finding his family dead and calling 111 is in no way connected with trying to wash clothes and removed blood.

The bruise on David’s head and scratches on his chest and graze on his knee – none of which he could explain, were just a coincidence

The lens from his glasses found in Stephen’s room happened weeks ago and he never noticed OR someone else had borrowed the glasses

The lack of fresh injuries on Robin despite the massive struggle with Stephen is just the product of healthy living

David’s finger prints on gun are from a previous time

David telling a friend he had premonition something bad was going to happen was a genuine psychic experience

Stephen’s blood on David’s clothing was nothing to do with the struggle – OR someone else borrowed his clothes

Robin managed to execute his family on a full bladder

The lock and key to the rifle being found in David’s room is not relevant as they were obviously placed there

Robin decided to wash David’s green jersey to remove blood and the fibres from jersey found under Steven’s finger nails

David’s bloody palm print on the washing machine was from him checking the bodies

The Ambulance officer was wrong when he said in his opinion Bain was pretending to have a fit

Robin Bain would logically wear gloves to prevent fingerprints despite it being a murder-suicide

That Robin Bain would type a message on a computer for David telling him he is the only one who deserves to live, instead of writing a note. A hand written note incidentally would have cleared David.

Also that having just shot his family, and knowing David was due home, that Robin would wait 44 seconds for the computer to boot up to leave a message

Robin would decide David deserved to live, but go out of his way to frame him for murder

Robin Bain placed fibres from Davids jersey under Stephen’s finger nails

Robin Bain would shoot himself with a gun in the most awkward way possible?

That Robin Bain changed jerseys after he had killed his family and in particular Stephen Bain, washed the jersey, hung it on the line and then change into a brown jersey before killing himself?

That there is a logical reason that David Bain can not account for the injuries on his face, the bruise or the scraped knee, yet knows he did not have them during his paper run.

That Robin Bain put blood on the inside of David’s duvet and on his light switch

That there is an innocent explanation for why David says he put on washing before he discovered the bodies, yet there is a blood print on the washing machine.

That Laniet was being paranoid when she told friends she was scared of David

That the “family meeting” David called the previous night and insisted everyone attended was not a way to make sure everyone would be at home to kill.

That Robin Bain would wear a hat while shooting himself in the head.

That even though David told a relative he hated his father, his father did not know this and deliberately decided David was the only one who deserved to live

That David either imagined hearing Laniet gurgling or she gurgled 20 minutes after death

That Laniet allegations of incent with Robin was true, as was her claims she had given birth three times by the age of 12 and a half.

That Robin Bain managed to kill four family members without a single trace of his blood, skin, or DNA being left at the scene.

That it is a coincidence that on the morning of the murders Bain took his dog onto a property, ensuring he would be noticed to give him an alibi.

That the magazine found balanced on an edge next to Robin was not placed there by David but fell onto its edge from Robin’s arms.

That a sickly Robin Bain managed to overpower his teendage son who put up a furious fight

That Robin Bain went and got the newspaper from outside, despite planning to shoot himself

David bain has been found not guilty as a result of a concerted effort to create doubt in the mind of the public and jurors. Oh yeah the jurors, none of whom will not have heard of the case prior to the trial.

I wonder what will happen when compensation is sought and the reasonable doubt/jury is replaced by balance of evidence as viewed by a barrister.

Oh yeah and of course you'd change into some nice fresh gears after slaughtering your family but just before blowing your brains out at the most awkward angle possible eh?

[steve_t]

Didn't the jurors go drinking with Bain and co after the hearing finished?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Wondered when that would surface. The words obviously aren't very clear so the Supreme Court decided it wasn't safe for the jury to hear them.

Man I like to get my hands on that tape and Analyze it myself... personally the couple of times I heard it... pfffht nothing... if anything he is trying to remember his phone number (in shock...) hell I can never remember it under normally circumstances...

some one is just wanting to keep the rumors going... I jury found him not guity... get over it...

[crazyhorse]

Who really gives - a decision has been reached - not everyone is gonna be happy with it - but let the guy have a life now.

[marty]

Bain is innocent. the fact that there are muppets on here who believe otherwise is sad.
all you "bain is guilty" crew, are you really so stupid you cannot imagine another way he got bruises and scratches ? maybe fainted after finding his whole family dead ? I pity your parents!
have you considered the possibility the dad changed his clothes ?
do you really think your single opinion is more valid that 12 opinions of others who know the facts ?

if you think he is guilty, you are very fucking stupid! and i suggest you kill yourself as a service to the rest of the world. and don't leave a mess !!! or do it before your son comes home from his paper round !!!

so far, it's 12 believed he was guilty, 12 thought he wasn't.

pretty much how the country is split i reckon.

you sound like you're actually more of a karam supporter than a bain supporter

and suggesting someone kills themselves because of their opinion is classic attack argument behaviour of someone who forms an opinion just 'because'....not actually based on any in-depth knowledge.

[Del Fuego]

Sounded like "I can't breath" to me but to be fair I really couldn't care much less than I do.

too many people around anyway.

[YellowDog]

The 111 call has no merit or value.

If it did have, the prosecution would have used it to influence the jury.

[gatch]

Without actually being in the court room for the duration of the proceedings and hearing the evidence and spin that both sides are using, it is IMPOSSIBLE to draw a plausible conclusion that is not based on conjecture and emotion.

Also simply by discussing the matter after the fact we are just feeding demand for the up and coming "David Bain Exclusive Insight Interview" that will no doubt appear in some shit house magazine in supermarket aisles near you..