Stopping dislocated shoulders

[lostinflyz]

hello everybody,

well seeing as i find crashing such a pleasure, i try and undertake a good solid crash every few months. unfortunatly in the past 3 months i have managed to crash really goodly and dislocate both my shoulders (in seperate crashes). It may just have been the nature of the crashes or it might just be my pussy shoulders. but anyway

A number of people have talked about a variety of tapes straps and braces that you can get to keep yourself together. Just wondering if anyone has ever or does use anything? does it work good enough and is it comfy??? where did you get it and wats it cost????

cheers Everybody

[vifferman]

I've never dislocated my shoulders crashing, although I've dislocated both in the past, and wrecked both rotator cups in non-motorcycling accidents.
I suspect that the long-term solution is to build up the strength of the muscles/ligaments/rubberbands in your shoulders to stop this happening. It's what I'm currently doing at physio.

[duckonin]

Sounds lke a trip to an orthopaedic surgeon for a putiplait..

That will keep you together...!! forget the tape and drama, to have shoulders coming out of joint is not fun at all..

[Sparky Bills]

Would be interested to know too. Gota love the dislocated shoulder club!

[TonyB]

From my own experience of buggering up a rotator cuff, as I understand it the way to go is strengthen up the muscles that hold it all together. Your shoulder is held in place by muscles and tendons. You can do what ever you like, but if the muscles and tendons are not strong, you'll continue to have problems.

A bit of happy news from a physio- it takes about 18 months for a shoulder to feel 'right' again. Thats when doing all the excercises the nice physio gives you.

[koba]

A bit of happy news from a physio- it takes about 18 months for a shoulder to feel 'right' again. Thats when doing all the excercises the nice physio gives you.

Bugger!
I just damaged mine a fair bit, I may have that to look foward to.

[lostinflyz]

From my own experience of buggering up a rotator cuff, as I understand it the way to go is strengthen up the muscles that hold it all together. Your shoulder is held in place by muscles and tendons. You can do what ever you like, but if the muscles and tendons are not strong, you'll continue to have problems.

A bit of happy news from a physio- it takes about 18 months for a shoulder to feel 'right' again. Thats when doing all the excercises the nice physio gives you.

great. now both my shoulders feel funny and its another 15 months till they feel good. yay

yea ive heard that about shoulders and strengthening. i merely wondered if anyone had tried some of the expensive braces you can get for them and if they are worth it and work.

guess ill have to drag the weights out and start taking protein milkshakes

[racerhead]

From my own experience of buggering up a rotator cuff, as I understand it the way to go is strengthen up the muscles that hold it all together. Your shoulder is held in place by muscles and tendons. You can do what ever you like, but if the muscles and tendons are not strong, you'll continue to have problems.

A bit of happy news from a physio- it takes about 18 months for a shoulder to feel 'right' again. Thats when doing all the excercises the nice physio gives you.

Yep thats exactly right. Ive done alot of damage to my left shoulder with mountain bike crashes. The main problem was I never gave it a chance to heal. Every 2-3 months Id knock it out and be back to the start again.
Ive been in the gym for the past few months and have noticed the shoulder has started to tighten back up alot.
The good news is though its only been about 8 months since I last dislocated it and it seems pretty strong, but saying that it hasnt had a good impact either.

But ye basicly just do the excercises and it will come right eventually.
Oh and try land on a different part of your body Its worth a try

[lostinflyz]

Yep thats exactly right. Ive done alot of damage to my left shoulder with mountain bike crashes. The main problem was I never gave it a chance to heal. Every 2-3 months Id knock it out and be back to the start again.
Ive been in the gym for the past few months and have noticed the shoulder has started to tighten back up alot.
The good news is though its only been about 8 months since I last dislocated it and it seems pretty strong, but saying that it hasnt had a good impact either.

But ye basicly just do the excercises and it will come right eventually.
Oh and try land on a different part of your body Its worth a try

yea did that. I landed on the OTHER shoulder. hahahaha

[steveyb]

From my own experience of buggering up a rotator cuff, as I understand it the way to go is strengthen up the muscles that hold it all together. Your shoulder is held in place by muscles and tendons. You can do what ever you like, but if the muscles and tendons are not strong, you'll continue to have problems.

A bit of happy news from a physio- it takes about 18 months for a shoulder to feel 'right' again. Thats when doing all the excercises the nice physio gives you.

While in essence this is so, and having the humerus come out of the joint socket is not what it is intended to do, there are other, non-repairable (not easily anyway) issues.
When the bone come out of the joint the muscles and tendons get stretched or torn. This often makes them lengthen a tiny bit, but sufficient to make the joint unstable. Muscle exercises will strengthen this part back up and aid enourmously against further instability. But be very careful, the rotator cuff muscles are very small and very easy to injure. Light weights must be used, at least to start with.
Tendons and ligaments can be shortened surgically as a last resort.
The real problem however, is that around the joint is a structure of cartilage which acts as the outer part of the joint holding the bone in place. Without this the bone would just swing out of the socket.
Each time the humerus is removed from the socket a peice of this cartilage is knocked off, making it progressively easier for it to come out again.
I am unaware of procedures to repair this damage.

One sure way to help stop shoulder injuries (dislocations and clavicle fractures, not sure it is possible to eliminate them really) is to have soft shock absorbing armour fitted into your leathers. Hard armour transfers shock straight through to your body, soft armour (not just foam, but proper shock absorbing elastomers (rubber in other words, Astrosorb, Sorbathane, D3O) spreads the impact by transferring the energy into the rubber, not the wearer, as much as anything can actually do it. It'll still hurt!!

Enjoy.

[lostinflyz]

While in essence this is so, and having the humerus come out of the joint socket is not what it is intended to do, there are other, non-repairable (not easily anyway) issues.
When the bone come out of the joint the muscles and tendons get stretched or torn. This often makes them lengthen a tiny bit, but sufficient to make the joint unstable. Muscle exercises will strengthen this part back up and aid enourmously against further instability. But be very careful, the rotator cuff muscles are very small and very easy to injure. Light weights must be used, at least to start with.
Tendons and ligaments can be shortened surgically as a last resort.
The real problem however, is that around the joint is a structure of cartilage which acts as the outer part of the joint holding the bone in place. Without this the bone would just swing out of the socket.
Each time the humerus is removed from the socket a peice of this cartilage is knocked off, making it progressively easier for it to come out again.
I am unaware of procedures to repair this damage.

One sure way to help stop shoulder injuries (dislocations and clavicle fractures, not sure it is possible to eliminate them really) is to have soft shock absorbing armour fitted into your leathers. Hard armour transfers shock straight through to your body, soft armour (not just foam, but proper shock absorbing elastomers (rubber in other words, Astrosorb, Sorbathane, D3O) spreads the impact by transferring the energy into the rubber, not the wearer, as much as anything can actually do it. It'll still hurt!!

Enjoy.

cheers mate thats a valuable thought. ive never thought about the padding on my leathers. i cant even think if i really have any where its needed. and im sure itd just be foam even if it was. ho hum. ho hum

[cowpoos]

hello everybody,

well seeing as i find crashing such a pleasure, i try and undertake a good solid crash every few months. unfortunatly in the past 3 months i have managed to crash really goodly and dislocate both my shoulders (in seperate crashes). It may just have been the nature of the crashes or it might just be my pussy shoulders. but anyway

A number of people have talked about a variety of tapes straps and braces that you can get to keep yourself together. Just wondering if anyone has ever or does use anything? does it work good enough and is it comfy??? where did you get it and wats it cost????

cheers Everybody

learn to ride and don't crash!!

or take up chess

[lostinflyz]

learn to ride and don't crash!!

or take up chess

you ride on the road to not crash. you race on the track to push the limits. sometimes you push them just a bit too far. and fall on your arse.

[TonyB]

Bugger!
I just damaged mine a fair bit, I may have that to look foward to.

great. now both my shoulders feel funny and its another 15 months till they feel good. yay

Its not all doom and gloom! The physio meant 18 months till it fells as good as the other shoulder. Mine was perfectly useable after about 2.5 months. Its still a bit weak and a bit sore, but it does the job. For the first month or more it was virtually impossible to change gears in a manual car. They come right pretty quick if youre doing the right things.

[lostinflyz]

Its not all doom and gloom! The physio meant 18 months till it fells as good as the other shoulder. Mine was perfectly useable after about 2.5 months. Its still a bit weak and a bit sore, but it does the job. For the first month or more it was virtually impossible to change gears in a manual car. They come right pretty quick if youre doing the right things.

yea. my last one healed up in about a week and had full range of movement in about 2 1/2 weeks. i thought you meant till it was primo. my lefts still a bit sticky when really stretching or reaching but hell you can always harden up and pull through for a bit