Dririder or Teknic? Sidi or Forma? Easy decision? Not for me...

[CookMySock]

Choice of winter overjacket? One word: Goretex. Accept no imitations.

I borrowed my mates goretex jacket and went walking in the bush with it. After two hours in the rain the jacket and I were totally drenched, and my cellphone (in the waterproof cellphone pocket) was completely fucked. NOT IMPRESSED with goretex.

I went to town this evening wearing my brand new cheapo ($71) Mohsin textile jacket with heated liner. Air temp outside 3degC, and after a 40min ride I was mint.. hands slightly on the cool side, but no shivers and no white fingertips, and this was with summer-weight leather gloves (with heated grips though.) $71 is damn good bang for the buck. Haven't been in the rain with it yet.


Steve

[BMWST?]

Yeah I had a Revit jacket that I had used about 2 times before I came off at around 30kph and the elbow just went completely to pieces! Was very surprised considering if I had been on the motorway I would have been going much much faster... scary thought!

Have been into cycletreads tonight and have decided against the dririder gear. The armour inside is just like foam off a camping mattress which wouldnt protect me much more than a garden bag wrapped around my limbs.

Too bad they didnt have any Teknic gear to try for size, even the Ixon gear was better protected.

I think I will be pondering this for awhile now...

Thanks for everyones input! Quazi - I will come and see you before I go for a track day

track days.....you want leather mate....with a good waterproof overjacket for when it rains...warm too

[howdamnhard]

track days.....you want leather mate....with a good waterproof overjacket for when it rains...warm too

What he said.DriRider isn't dry after a while. Both jacket and boots leaked like a sieve after a while.Had quality issues with my tecknic gloves. Got some nice Quasi leathers now.

[vifferman]

The armour inside is just like foam off a camping mattress

Exactly like the neoprene used for camping mattresses, or just similar? The reason I ask is that the newer types of armour are foam, rather than the foam-backed plastic of a few years ago. However (but!) it's not just ordinary neoprene, but a denser kind of material that absorbs impacts better. In an accident, hard armour tends to do more damage to the area around a joint (soft tissue, ligaments and tendons) so it's been phased out.
In any case, like I mentioned earlier in this thread, armour is readily replaced, and is relatively cheap.

[Hitcher]

I borrowed my mates goretex jacket and went walking in the bush with it. After two hours in the rain the jacket and I were totally drenched, and my cellphone (in the waterproof cellphone pocket) was completely fucked. NOT IMPRESSED with goretex.

Sounds like a warranty claim to me.

And pockets in Goretex jackets are rarely waterproof -- generally because they are outside of the Goretex liner. This is the same reason why gloves should NEVER be worn outside the sleeves on a Goretex jacket when it's raining.

[crashalots]

Exactly like the neoprene used for camping mattresses, or just similar? The reason I ask is that the newer types of armour are foam, rather than the foam-backed plastic of a few years ago. However (but!) it's not just ordinary neoprene, but a denser kind of material that absorbs impacts better. In an accident, hard armour tends to do more damage to the area around a joint (soft tissue, ligaments and tendons) so it's been phased out.
In any case, like I mentioned earlier in this thread, armour is readily replaced, and is relatively cheap.

Hey are you the guy from the shop? Thats what he said! haha

Yeah I agree with you completely that the foam was likely much more "high tech" than mattress foam, but I cant help but feel concerned that it just wont be enough. The ixon stuff with the foam backed plastic seems to provide the best of both worlds. Surface abrasion and impact dampening.

But if I was that concerned yeah I would probably just replace it like you say.

[Winston001]

Motoline jacket.

I have a mate who is....er...interested in detail. To select a jacket he brought a few home home from the shop, filled each with newspaper, and put a spray hose on it for half an hour.

The jacket with dry newspaper........Motoline. Well made, similar prices to Dryrider etc, and three layers. Outer, one breathable+waterproof, and innermost warm liner. All removable. Easy to do up and comfortable to wear.

[Winston001]

As for boots, here is a pretty useful discussion http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ighlight=boots

Personally I'd go for the Sidi. I have had a pair of full leather motocross style Sidi boots for 10 years. Certainly I've looked after them but they are still dry, no loose stitching, and the drawstring for the inner hasn't broken. Only used for road riding.

As Ixion says, ultimately the best boot is full high-grade leather and you keep putting wax or whatever on it. Motorcycle boots are not shoes.

[LaytonNZ]

So I have spent most of my motorcycle ownership life with the things in bits, but now finally I can do some riding... but I need my gear.

I have been looking around different products and have 2 jackets and 2 boots to choose from (I think) within my price range:

Dririder Nordic Pro or the Teknic Stinger Jacket

Forma Arrow Dry Boot or the Sidi B2 Race Boot

Pros and cons being that the latter of each are more costy... but the stinger apparently has better armour, but the nordic is popular waterproof/warm gear . And as for the boots, well theyre sidi... thats good right? $75 better?

Would appreciate some experienced advice since I cant make up my mind. I'm open to completely new ideas too...

Get a revit jacket..I Swear by it. Iv'e had 2 crashs in mine and im still in one piece.

[Winston001]

Get a revit jacket..I Swear by it. Iv'e had 2 crashs in mine and im still in one piece.

LOL thats the way to test!

Seriously - textile jackets are not expected or made to stand up to accidents. The fact they sometimes do has everything to do with the type of crash. Its a tradeoff for lower price but warmer, against stronger but costlier leather.

[jono035]

Get a revit jacket..I Swear by it. Iv'e had 2 crashs in mine and im still in one piece.

Most of my gear is Rev'It, good to hear, thanks!

[jono035]

LOL thats the way to test!

Seriously - textile jackets are not expected or made to stand up to accidents. The fact they sometimes do has everything to do with the type of crash. Its a tradeoff for lower price but warmer, against stronger but costlier leather.

Yeah, there are a few things that can be tell-tale though, as Quasi has mentioned many times... Things like seams busting, zips breaking apart etc.

I'd rather hear someone crashed in the gear twice and it was fine then hear nothing about it...

[LaytonNZ]

Iv'e Traded paint with a car, Jacket stood up well.

Iv'e Slipped on the white line and slid down the road my Textile pants didnt hold up so well..Hole in the ass.

[jono035]

Iv'e Traded paint with a car, Jacket stood up well.

Iv'e Slipped on the white line and slid down the road my Textile pants didnt hold up so well..Hole in the ass.

That, admittedly, sounds a little less positive...

[LaytonNZ]

But in the defence of textile pants, They're a shity brand! Cheapo's. I have a leather suit aswell, but i dont tend to wear it its not as cumfy nor as warm, But i feel cooler!