Hazzard County

[GOONR]

DIC = old way, no measuring of blood/breath levels, use to be a doctors decision and use to be hard to prove - but if it WAS proved there was mandatory 5-year disqualification.

EBA = Excess Blood (or Breath) Alcohol, and actual measurement.

Both mean a dangerous fuckwit has been driving..

Ahh, think it is still generally know as DIC in the UK, even if the process has changed.

[Mom]

Ahh, think it is still generally know as DIC in the UK, even if the process has changed.

It is generally known as DIC here too, unless you have faced an EBA charge, or a friend has, then it is EBA all the way baby

[GOONR]

It is generally known as DIC here too, unless you have faced an EBA charge, or a friend has, then it is EBA all the way baby

Sweet, I haven't, none of my mates have, must still be DIC then.

Cheers Mom!

[jono035]

Sweet, I haven't, none of my mates have, must still be DIC then.

Cheers Mom!

Yeah, same here, still a DIC for me too

[SixPackBack]

Bent coppers will be rubbing their collective hands in glee.....by special appearance morc and skidmark appear on the ATNR.

Oh and what happened to the site coppers answering Patricks disturbing assurance that "I know of quite a few cops who have been pissed while driving and have been done for EBA"??.....seriously wtf?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...&postcount=170

[scumdog]

Bent coppers will be rubbing their collective hands in glee.....by special appearance morc and skidmark appear on the ATNR.

Oh and what happened to the site coppers answering Patricks disturbing assurance that "I know of quite a few cops who have been pissed while driving and have been done for EBA"??.....seriously wtf?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...&postcount=170

OK, in special little words I'll try to explain Patricks 'disturbing assurance'.

It seems he has heard of coppers who have been driving while their breath or blood alcohol level was over the NZ legal limit.

They have been prosecuted for that - and dismissed from NZ Police toot-sweet..

I guess you have a problem that they had been drinking and driving.

So do I.

Just like I do with anybody drink-driving.

[SixPackBack]

OK, in special little words I'll try to explain Patricks 'disturbing assurance'.

It seems he has heard of coppers who have been driving while their breath or blood alcohol level was over the NZ legal limit.

They have been prosecuted for that - and dismissed from NZ Police toot-sweet..

I guess you have a problem that they had been drinking and driving.

So do I.

Just like I do with anybody drink-driving.

Nice little patronising spin scumdog. Copper are great at making the indefensible seem almost normal....

From the commission of report into Police conduct, specifically the collective attitude towards alcohol:

Attitudes towards the use of alcohol

7.18 Professor Bayley told me of the need to “deglamorise” drinking within the police. He said
that many of the problems that women complain about in relation to police culture had
their roots in drinking too much, and in the bonding ritual that drinking provides.

887 He
recommended that police organisations work to discourage drinking as a bonding ritual. I
support Professor Bayley’s recommendation in that area. He also suggested that there be a

mandatory requirement for all officers to report drug and alcohol abuse.888

.......further evidence of the two faced attitudes the general public faces when dealing with the coppers:

Dual standards with respect to on-duty and off-duty behaviour

7.19 It seems that many police forces struggle with the issue of dual standards with respect to
appropriate on-duty and off-duty behaviour. Officers frequently attempt to draw a very
clear line between the two, and argue that what an individual does off duty, in terms of
sexual behaviour or other moral issues, is no business of the police management. Professor
Bayley told me that in America a sworn police officer is a police officer at all times, and his
or her behaviour should always be able to withstand public scrutiny.

889 This principle also
applies in other parts of the State sector in New Zealand.890 Application of this philosophy
may be seen to curtail the freedom of police officers to engage in activities that are legal but,
if widely known, would bring the police into disrepute; however, in my view that is part of

the price police officers pay in their choice of career.

To summarise?................the coppers have a questionable system of bonding involving alcohol and feel that once off duty are free to break the law in any way they feel fit.

As long as they don't get caught

[scumdog]

Nice little patronising spin scumdog. Copper are great at making the indefensible seem almost normal....
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To summarise?................the coppers have a questionable system of bonding involving alcohol and feel that once of duty are free to break the law in any way they feel fit.

As long as they don't get caught
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At the risk of biting on a troll: If my mentioning a few facts is 'patronising' the yeah, I'm patronising..

And the second part of above sounds just like the rest of society, whence police are acquired from...

Only the public are never 'on duty'.

[SixPackBack]

At the risk of biting on a troll: If my mentioning a few facts is 'patronising' the yeah, I'm patronising..

And the second part of above sounds just like the rest of society, whence police are acquired from...

Only the public are never 'on duty'.

'On duty' WTF?............the issue is about coppers breaking the law when off duty. Frankly it seems that many do it without any moral issues.

Follow the law on Monday, break it on Sunday!?......hey scummy that could be the collective catch phrase for the NZ police force.....kinda catchy, and certainly accurate.

[scumdog]

'On duty' WTF?............the issue is about coppers breaking the law when off duty. Frankly it seems that many do it without any moral issues.

Follow the law on Monday, break it on Sunday!?......hey scummy that could be the collective catch phrase for the NZ police force.....kinda catchy, and certainly accurate.

That's the whole point, YOU posted said "the coppers have a questionable system of bonding involving alcohol and feel that once of (off?) duty are free to break the law in any way they feel fit".

Ya can't break the law if you're not caught....

Of course at the end of the day about the suggested 'catch phrase'?

Not me.

[Aaron_newrider]

I absolutely hate the police on the north shore and the coast, and have had many run-ins with them when I was younger (15-18yrs)

Here is one example why I hate them - not related to motorbikes but is related to traffic/their attitude.

I was sitting at home, relaxing on a friday night. Got a call from my mate, drunk as a skunk, had driven to the party, asking for me to come and pick him and 3 mates up from a party. Thought this was great that he had not driven and said "definately mate, good on ya i'll be there in 15min"

Got in my car, and arrived at the party. There were people all over the road, and the north shore police had broken up the party.... Parked 5min walk from the party, told the guys where I was and they came to the car.

My mates car was outside the venue - and he asked me to go get it and take it out of the way of stupid drunk teens - once again sweet as.

Started walking down to his car (5min walk) and was stopped by a Paddy Wagon with 6-8 cops inside. They all jumped out and asked me "where do you think you are going?" I explained the situation, thinking I/my mate had done the 100% right thing. but no....

Cops told me to fuck off, that i wasn't driving and that I had to turn around and walk the other way. Argued for 5min... and then walked away because they wanted to arrest me! For public nusiance!!!!!

Anyway - I as I was walking away they decided they could smell weed on me - (it was the house about 50m upwind of us I smelt it on the way down) - and stip searched me on the side of the road. When I was down to my tight white underpants I asked if I can take them off - they told me I would be arrested if I did.... HAHAHA.. Anyway I didn't have week on me, so they decided to search my car.

Got back to my car with the cops - guys are there absolutely trashed - "should i have let him drive officer?" I asked. Didn't reply. Then the proceded to take apart my car and all the contents (it was full of empty beer bottles and just absolute shit everywhere.

The guys are laughing finding this quote funny in their drunken state - cops are saying "we know it's in here somewhere!".

10 minutes later they didn't find anything and told everyone to get in the car except me. I got the "you little fucking smart arse" lecture and the "you wont be so lucky next time" lecture.

My reply: You guys aren't very good at searching vehicles are you, you forgot to lift up the back seat with the little metal clip in the middle.

"GET OUT OF THE CAR" cops say to my mates. They were in histerics, all got out. Cops re-searched the back seats. Didn't find anything of coarse.

"fuck off and go home, if I see you again tonight i'm going to arrest you" say the cops.

Cops left - we wen't down to the beach to chill and they turn up again!!!!!
"we gave you a warning ect ect ect..."

I told them I had a right to peace full assembly, and that I would do them for unlawful detainment if they tried to arrest me. They didn't arrest me and left.

Well, that's a good excuse to hate the cops I think.....

[scumdog]

I absolutely hate the police on the north shore and the coast, and have had many run-ins with them when I was younger (15-18yrs)

Here is one example why I hate them - not related to motorbikes but is related to traffic/their attitude.

I was sitting at home, relaxing on a friday night. Got a call from my mate, drunk as a skunk, had driven to the party, asking for me to come and pick him and 3 mates up from a party. Thought this was great that he had not driven and said "definately mate, good on ya i'll be there in 15min"

Got in my car, and arrived at the party. There were people all over the road, and the north shore police had broken up the party.... Parked 5min walk from the party, told the guys where I was and they came to the car.

My mates car was outside the venue - and he asked me to go get it and take it out of the way of stupid drunk teens - once again sweet as.

Started walking down to his car (5min walk) and was stopped by a Paddy Wagon with 6-8 cops inside. They all jumped out and asked me "where do you think you are going?" I explained the situation, thinking I/my mate had done the 100% right thing. but no....

Cops told me to fuck off, that i wasn't driving and that I had to turn around and walk the other way. Argued for 5min... and then walked away because they wanted to arrest me! For public nusiance!!!!!

Anyway - I as I was walking away they decided they could smell weed on me - (it was the house about 50m upwind of us I smelt it on the way down) - and stip searched me on the side of the road. When I was down to my tight white underpants I asked if I can take them off - they told me I would be arrested if I did.... HAHAHA.. Anyway I didn't have week on me, so they decided to search my car.

Got back to my car with the cops - guys are there absolutely trashed - "should i have let him drive officer?" I asked. Didn't reply. Then the proceded to take apart my car and all the contents (it was full of empty beer bottles and just absolute shit everywhere.

The guys are laughing finding this quote funny in their drunken state - cops are saying "we know it's in here somewhere!".

10 minutes later they didn't find anything and told everyone to get in the car except me. I got the "you little fucking smart arse" lecture and the "you wont be so lucky next time" lecture.

My reply: You guys aren't very good at searching vehicles are you, you forgot to lift up the back seat with the little metal clip in the middle.

"GET OUT OF THE CAR" cops say to my mates. They were in histerics, all got out. Cops re-searched the back seats. Didn't find anything of coarse.

"fuck off and go home, if I see you again tonight i'm going to arrest you" say the cops.

Cops left - we wen't down to the beach to chill and they turn up again!!!!!
"we gave you a warning ect ect ect..."

I told them I had a right to peace full assembly, and that I would do them for unlawful detainment if they tried to arrest me. They didn't arrest me and left.

Well, that's a good excuse to hate the cops I think.....

OOoooh...I'm scared of THIS guy!

Gets hassled, - baits the cops - gets hassled - moans about cops.

He'll go far - on KB!!

[Aaron_newrider]

OOoooh...I'm scared of THIS guy!

Gets hassled, - baits the cops - gets hassled - moans about cops.

He'll go far - on KB!!

Don't understand you mate - LOL - it was just an example of cops being pricks. That was afew years ago.

[scumdog]

Don't understand you mate - LOL - it was just an example of cops being pricks. That was afew years ago.

Sadly cops are like the public - meet enough of them and you'll bump into a few procks - unfortunately sometimes the first ones you meet are pricks.

[GOONR]

Sadly cops are like the public - meet enough of them and you'll bump into a few procks - unfortunately sometimes the first ones you meet are pricks.

One of my mates has just joined up, he finished his training earlier this year. He's one of the nicest guys I've ever known. I reckon if he was the first cop a person had a dealing with then that persons general attitude towards plod would be all good. Unless they have been a naughty person and got caught that is.

On the other side, I did some work for the metropolitan police federation in London, god some of those guys where just unbelievable, drunken idiots with a bad attitude towards anyone who wasn't part of the "clan".

So yeah, like you say, it all depends on who you meet. (and what you where doing to meet them)