Illegal Doco on TV2.

[jono035]

Mark: Yeah, I've seen that one a few times before. Had a turn with a guys .44 magnum desert eagle and was utterly terrified of doing the same thing. The .44 magnum was loaded up hotter than factory .50AE rounds too (CSI isn't certified for .50AE though).

It's not as bad as you'd think, hell of a recoil but it's actually pretty well spread out by the sheer weight of the pistol.

I found it more pleasant to shoot than the polymer frame walther with 9mm +P handloads in it that I shot a couple of weeks ago.

[jono035]

Yup, listen carefully and you can hear the clang of the bullet strike just before the puff of dust on front of the shooter.

Yeah, and that whine as it moves, sheeeeesh, he'll be having nightmares about that...

[jono035]

Hilarious. The blog linked to by the poster of that video mentions the incident on
http://www.madogre.com/Archives/June%202007.htm
For a start they say its a 750 grain bullet, thats 50 grams. If that had been what actually hit him, they'd have been cleaning him off the rifle with a squeegee.

Secondly, they said the range was 100 yards... What the hell are you doing firing a .50 BMG at 100 yards?! Might be a typo and they are meaning 1000 yards, but I can't say from the video...

Tempted to set that sound as a ringtone or something. Bloomph pink nnyyeeeeaaaarrrrrrr POK. Hilarious.

Edit: It occurs to me that it sounds like the bullet travels for about a second before hitting, which at 1km/s for the bullet and 330m/s for sound would put the target at about 250m... Definitely not 1000 yards though!

[wbks]

Not a fake. Not the bullet bouncing either. It's pretty hard to get an entire bullet turned around and coming back at you unless you've done something very wrong with what you're shooting into (rocks for instance).

It's actually the jacket being shedded as it goes through the target. You hear them say at the end 'nope, no more iron' because they are shooting at steel targets. When the bullet hits the target the denser lead core punches a hole through, scraping the copper jacket off on the outside. Once it is done, the copper springs back and heads pretty damn close to straight where it came from.

Don't shoot steel targets with jacketed rifle rounds.

Edit: If it was even a fragment of the original bullet he wouldn't have stood up afterwards. A 22LR to the head can kill you, doesn't take much in the way of pieces of .50 cal bullet to equal a .22 bullet.

Well now that I hear the science behind it, it doesn't seem so far off.

Yup, listen carefully and you can hear the clang of the bullet strike just before the puff of dust on front of the shooter.

I heard that loud and clear. I thought it was fake because I didn't think you could rebound something like that for a start, and all of the "produced by so and so studios" type credits made me think it was one of those things they make, kind of like the comedy central adds at the moment with the guy that gets flung onto the soccer field...

[jono035]

Well now that I hear the science behind it, it doesn't seem so far off.

I heard that loud and clear. I thought it was fake because I didn't think you could rebound something like that for a start, and all of the "produced by so and so studios" type credits made me think it was one of those things they make, kind of like the comedy central adds at the moment with the guy that gets flung onto the soccer field...

Nah, the adds were due to them using a piece of software they hadn't paid for... Strictly speaking you can deflect something like that, but the longer/thinner the bullet the less it can be deflected in a single hit as far as I understand it.

Which is why you have to be damn careful with .22s because the bullets are damn near spherical by comparison. You can quite easily take a shot at a possum in a tree and hear the bullet whine off at 45 degrees to where it should be, which is why I always try to get any houses etc. beyond 90 degrees to the line of fire.

[ManDownUnder]

http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?ID=953

Didn't someone say they were only good for taking lives? Damn - I guess that sniper got it wrong...

[jono035]

http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?ID=953

Didn't someone say they were only good for taking lives? Damn - I guess that sniper got it wrong...

Holy crap. That's a pretty awesome shot and an incredibly confused guy. I don't think they really needed to be all that vigorous with pulling him backwards over the chair by his neck though lol

[Mr Merde]

The second part of the peusdo documantary is on tonight.

Supposedly he is looking to buy illegal guns rather than guns illegally.

As much as I dont want to weatch this programme, I am going to.
I am going to take note and make further complaint to BSA and TVNZ.


It has been a long time since I have had such a antagonistic attitude but this dickhead and his bigotted, biased viewpoints really got under my skin.

[jono035]

The second part of the peusdo documantary is on tonight.

Supposedly he is looking to buy illegal guns rather than guns illegally.

As much as I dont want to weatch this programme, I am going to.
I am going to take note and make further complaint to BSA and TVNZ.


It has been a long time since I have had such a antagonistic attitude but this dickhead and his bigotted, biased viewpoints really got under my skin.

An interesting point is one of the ROs at CSI recognised the guy as someone who had been in at some point a while back. Probably wired with his "my mum thinks I'm a secret agent" camera all the while making wisecracks about how if anyone spots the camera 'it could get ugly'.

I'm guessing none of the footage showed up though because he couldn't find anything even remotely dangerous or dubious. Must have been a hell of a let down...

Poor dear...

[wbks]

Are those csi guest nights very crowded? 5 mins and move on kind of thing?

[jono035]

Are those csi guest nights very crowded? 5 mins and move on kind of thing?

The thursday nights are really crowded but they are generally run such that it is a first in, first served basis... If you're there early enough to get a bay at 7 then you have that bay until 8, where they will ask people to move off and let the people waiting have a turn for the final hour. There are also some times where you will get multiple people taking turns shooting at 2 targets in the same bay.

Tuesdays are normally full, but only just. I think we had 1 or 2 people waiting until 8 but they may have arrived late. There are 10 bays total, normally 5 for visitors, 5 for members on those nights.

[kokonutcreme]

http://www.facebook.com/groups/creat...d=121594183102
Join the revolution and get this 'Mr 'X' off the screen.....damn I'm going to start a Doco about Gang Patches..Are they Taylor made and what texture is best preffered by members? Rough, Smooth, Soft...ha ha. What a dicky media trash doco that is paid by us tax payers! LOL

[Swoop]

Well, the second episode was as poorly done as the first.
Truly shocking reporting.

[jono035]

Well, the second episode was as poorly done as the first.
Truly shocking reporting.

Will have to take a look for it on the website sometime today. Not looking forward to it at all, but oh well...

[jrandom]

I see that tonight's episode is about anabolic steroids.

It's embarrassingly stupid.

Surely even the average TV viewer, completely uneducated on the subject, will be rolling their eyes and assuming that they're being condescended to by a programme that was based on about twenty minutes of internet research.

Surely.