Rich families rort the system -FFS!

**StoneY** · 18th August 2009, 15:43

Originally Posted by Morcs

Thats correct. If you earn 50k, only the 2k above 48k gets taxed in the higher bracket.

Dude- my slary went up- my take home pay went down- I dont care what the math is- its still wrong - my tax bracket jumped 7%

I have been to 2 advisors that deal with such issues- and thats the way it is-I pay a LOT more tax now than 3 months ago- and Mr Key kept my tax cut too the bastard!

**MisterD** · 18th August 2009, 15:45

Originally Posted by short-circuit

The system exists to support the needs of the very poorest in our society though, so would that make exploitation by wealthy far worse?

People who skive on the dole and milk the system are exploiting the needy just as much (if not more) than those who are mitigating the amount of tax they oay in...

**ckai** · 18th August 2009, 15:49

You all paid for my Uni (well where I lived at least). My dearest mummy owned a company that made no money. So I claimed living allowance. I only claimed because the signer-upper chick asked what the folks did, I told her. She said the accountant probably has it so she makes no money (or minimum) and to apply for it. I did and got it. Never mind the parents were in fact making no money for years and worked their asses off to get were they are now.

I got something because of the way the accountant made it advantageous to do so. Just like these buggers.

Is structuring your income by an accountant any different from having more kids to get more DPB? Or having a "sore back" for life so you can sit at home and get fat on the "sickness" benefit?

Or fat people on the f**ken sickness benefit!!! You're fat! Not sick!

How many of the alleged are actually rich? I don't go for people screwing the system for greed. I don't mind people making things advantageous for themselves to help get ahead.

Simple solution really...scrap all handouts. Who would be the first to complain? The rich "abusing" the system...or the fat, can't-keep-legs-closed poor abusing the system?

Cut off the greedy and lazy.

**imdying** · 18th August 2009, 15:51

Originally Posted by short-circuit

The system exists to support the needs of the very poorest in our society though, so would that make exploitation by wealthy far worse?

So how does that makes exploitation by the wealthy any worse than exploitation by the poor?

**short-circuit** · 18th August 2009, 15:55

Originally Posted by imdying

So how does that makes exploitation by the wealthy any worse than exploitation by the poor?

Um....they can afford not to do it. Are you really that thick? Or are you just morally redundant?

**bull** · 18th August 2009, 15:57

Originally Posted by Usarka

Why does it make a different if abusers of the "system" are rich or poor?

Exactly it shouldnt - tho apparently here in Kiwibiker Kangaroo court this is acceptable behaviour to get back at the poor whom are also working the system to their advantage yet in their case its a bad thing.

Typical double standards here on KB - like James Deuce said in another thread, people suck.

**short-circuit** · 18th August 2009, 16:02

Originally Posted by bull

Exactly it shouldnt - tho apparently here in Kiwibiker Kangaroo court this is acceptable behaviour to get back at the poor whom are also working the system to their advantage yet in their case its a bad thing.

Typical double standards here on KB - like James Deuce said in another thread, people suck.

I don't agree with you but on that point of double standards -

How come if you're rich and you exploit people or "the system" you are considered "clever", "industrious" etc?

If you are poor (even if you legitimately need financial support because of your circumstances) you are labelled a "bludger", "lazy" etc

**imdying** · 18th August 2009, 16:51

Originally Posted by short-circuit

Um....they can afford not to do it. Are you really that thick? Or are you just morally redundant?

So how does it make it worse?? You believe there should be one rules (not that they're breaking any laws mind) for the rich and one for the poor?

**imdying** · 18th August 2009, 16:53

Originally Posted by short-circuit

How come if you're rich and you exploit people or "the system" you are considered "clever", "industrious" etc?

What are you thick? It's because the poor people break the law to do it...

**short-circuit** · 18th August 2009, 16:58

Originally Posted by imdying

What are you thick? It's because the poor people break the law to do it...

If you read my posts simpleton you would see that I am not referring to "rules" or "laws".

**oldrider** · 18th August 2009, 16:58

Originally Posted by imdying

So how does that makes exploitation by the wealthy any worse than exploitation by the poor?

Because that's the way lefties work, they develop a theory, create a fear and repeat the lie over and over until it becomes the perceived truth!

I.E. Global warming anyone!

United Nations.

All employers are exploiting you.

Big government is OK.

ETC. ETC.

**imdying** · 18th August 2009, 17:02

Originally Posted by short-circuit

If you read my posts simpleton you would see that I am not referring to "rules" or "laws".

It doesn't matter if the answer is obvious to you or not, that doesn't change it.

**short-circuit** · 18th August 2009, 17:04

Originally Posted by oldrider

Because that's the way lefties work, they develop a theory, create a fear and repeat the lie over and over until it becomes the perceived truth!

I.E. Global warming anyone!

United Nations.

All employers are exploiting you.

Big government is OK.

ETC. ETC.

It's just so fucking obvious who is responsible for the greatest abuses and exploitation.

Who do you think does the majority of the skimming, theiving and leeching - rich or poor?