1.4 billion people live in poverty

[Grahameeboy]

Africa's poor because:

(a) most of it is worthless for agriculture, and

(b) it's full of dishonest niggers who are thick as pigshit.

I'm not quite sure what any of us can do about either of those fundamental problems.

Homo sapiens may have evolved on the east African plains, but civilisation didn't happen until the species migrated off that continent.

You should be a JW.............

[Grahameeboy]

before people come on here and go on about black people who deserve the misery they are born into, go on about how hopeless it is and we will never make a difference, or go on about how money that is donated ends up funding despots who use it to buy guns, why don't you read some of the following;

There are good new Zealanders making a difference all over the world;
http://www.livinghope.org.nz/
http://sites.google.com/site/kailakurihealth/Home
http://www.shimshaltrust.org.nz
http://www.knzrt.co.nz

Thru positive direct action over the past decade, the number of people in extreme poverty in the world has halved.

I agree but http://www.globalpovertyproject.com/ is trying to change that.....

[jrandom]

You should be a JW.............

You should be a Buddhist.

[Grahameeboy]

You should be a Buddhist.

No cause they just hide in retreats and huuuummmmmmmm

[hutchy52]

7 births. I'd bet 2 of them make it to 5 years old. They perform vital household functions like the two hour round trip to collect clean water for the day's use, before school. If they are lucky enough to have a school within 20 kms.

Wherever the "there" is you're imagining, a lack of food is seldom the reason for famine.

In fact, their (third world countries) death rate is only about 50% higher than that of developed countries whereas their population growth is about 3 times as high, I guess you are basing your assumptions on the hype that the media makes of it.

Do you know what the meaning of famine is by the way? a lack of food is exactly the reason.

Is your first paragraph a direct quote from a World Vision ad?

[James Deuce]

before people come on here and go on about black people who deserve the misery they are born into, go on about how hopeless it is and we will never make a difference, or go on about how money that is donated ends up funding despots who use it to buy guns, why don't you read some of the following;

There are good new Zealanders making a difference all over the world;
http://www.livinghope.org.nz/
http://sites.google.com/site/kailakurihealth/Home
http://www.shimshaltrust.org.nz
http://www.knzrt.co.nz

Thru positive direct action over the past decade, the number of people in extreme poverty in the world has halved.

There have always been Good NZers trying to make a difference. I doubt they are responsible for halving extreme poverty.

I know you'd like to believe the pretty words in those website, but those poor buggers probably think normal rainfall tastes like urine. They need to learn to piss downwind.

The only way to fix the world's poverty is to stop giving people stuff and stop making it worthwhile for underperforming economies to exploit their human resource to provide consumer products at stupidly low prices to stupid, fat "Westerners". That's a positive action any of us can take today.

I buy Italian shoes because I've abandoned vanity and $200-$400 will give me a pair of shoes that will survive a decade and a couple of new soles.

[Grahameeboy]

There have always been Good NZers trying to make a difference. I doubt they are responsible for halving extreme poverty.

I know you'd like to believe the pretty words in those website, but those poor buggers probably think normal rainfall tastes like urine. They need to learn to piss downwind.

The only way to fix the world's poverty is to stop giving people stuff and stop making it worthwhile for underperforming economies to exploit their human resource to provide consumer products at stupidly low prices to stupid, fat "Westerners". That's a positive action any of us can take today.

I buy Italian shoes because I've abandoned vanity and $200-$400 will give me a pair of shoes that will survive a decade and a couple of new soles.

http://www.globalpovertyproject.com/

[peasea]

In fact, their (third world countries) death rate is only about 50% higher than that of developed countries whereas their population growth is about 3 times as high, I guess you are basing your assumptions on the hype that the media makes of it.

Do you know what the meaning of famine is by the way? a lack of food is exactly the reason.

Is your first paragraph a direct quote from a World Vision ad?

World (blinkered, myopic, politically-driven, tree-hugging, liberal, soft-cock, bleeding heart) Vision. That one?

[peasea]

There have always been Good NZers trying to make a difference. I doubt they are responsible for halving extreme poverty.

I know you'd like to believe the pretty words in those website, but those poor buggers probably think normal rainfall tastes like urine. They need to learn to piss downwind.

The only way to fix the world's poverty is to stop giving people stuff and stop making it worthwhile for underperforming economies to exploit their human resource to provide consumer products at stupidly low prices to stupid, fat "Westerners". That's a positive action any of us can take today.

I buy Italian shoes because I've abandoned vanity and $200-$400 will give me a pair of shoes that will survive a decade and a couple of new soles.

Or a couple of new 'souls'?

[hutchy52]

World (blinkered, myopic, politically-driven, tree-hugging, liberal, soft-cock, bleeding heart) Vision. That one?

That would be the one

[James Deuce]

In fact, their (third world countries) death rate is only about 50% higher than that of developed countries whereas their population growth is about 3 times as high, I guess you are basing your assumptions on the hype that the media makes of it.

Do you know what the meaning of famine is by the way? a lack of food is exactly the reason.

Is your first paragraph a direct quote from a World Vision ad?

The survial rate depends entirely on which part of the world you're talking about. I made some assumptions about your predispositions to ethnic prejudice and thought "Horn of Africa". You can't control birthrate in countries that don't educate the entirel populace so you are left with one option, and Genocide, isn't like, cool, mmmkay?

The world has never been short of food. Merely the will to give it away for nothing, and the desire of the recipients to distribute it.

The cause of most of the major famines have been logistical. When a rebel army refuses to let your aid through to a refugee camp full of people displaced by political action beyond their control, they aren't dyinbg of starvation. They are dying of direct military action.

The "First World", :Third World" descriptors were dropped from common usage quite some time ago. There are elements of the reactionary press attempting to normalise the phrases again though.

[James Deuce]

Or a couple of new 'souls'?

Arsehole - oops that just slipped out

[smoky]

There have always been Good NZers trying to make a difference. I doubt they are responsible for halving extreme poverty.

I wasn't saying they were? there are a lot of different organisations. The point I was making is that in some small way we can all make a difference, that it's not as hopeless or as much a waste of time helping as most people on here are saying.

I know you'd like to believe the pretty words in those website,

Actually I spent a number of years traveling thru different parts of the world - I've seen extreme poverty, I've seen the crippled, the hungry and the dead, the exploited, I've seen home and lives destroyed by war, and I've seen the difference good people are making, first hand

The only way to fix the world's poverty is to stop giving people stuff and stop making it worthwhile for underperforming economies to exploit their human resource to provide consumer products at stupidly low prices to stupid, fat "Westerners". That's a positive action any of us can take today..

100% on to it

That's what the Global Poverty Project is all about
That's what I'm inviting people to find out about
That's the intelligent sustainable answer

[peasea]

There have always been Good NZers trying to make a difference. I doubt they are responsible for halving extreme poverty.

I know you'd like to believe the pretty words in those website, but those poor buggers probably think normal rainfall tastes like urine. They need to learn to piss downwind.

The only way to fix the world's poverty is to stop giving people stuff and stop making it worthwhile for underperforming economies to exploit their human resource to provide consumer products at stupidly low prices to stupid, fat "Westerners". That's a positive action any of us can take today.

I buy Italian shoes because I've abandoned vanity and $200-$400 will give me a pair of shoes that will survive a decade and a couple of new soles.

Gotta tell you a story:

I have a brother who found a job in some far-flung shithole (Dubai, I think), well paid, etc. He lived in comfort while all around him were in need. One local begger had a huge growth on his side and a few of the 'imports' got to talking about him. "Let's put some cash together to fix this guy's growth and he'll be saved" etc etc. They put it to the begger and he refused (canny dude, this one) as it would remove his livelihood.

It's not just a NZ way of thinking is it?

Heaps of nations have millions to spend on guns etc to shoot each other to bits yet haven't got two grains of rice to rub together at tea time.

Go figure.......

[peasea]

Arsehole - oops that just slipped out

If it slipped out of an areshole, you're doing it wrong.