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The P47N was designed to fly escort missions in the Pacific. It could fly to and from Germany from bases in the UK twice on full external and internal fuel loads. It had a higher top speed than the 51D.Originally Posted by Boob Johnson
lol James. Let's start with the Thunderbolt...........pffff. You don't see a TB flying faster than a Mustang or escorting deep into Germany AND back
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Listen to this then...I know!!!!!
The P51 is my absolute favourite, I fell in love at Wanaka years ago!!!!!
The sound is amazing!! Can't wait till they take it out again!!!!
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Bristol sleeve valve radials make Merlins sound like Harleys.
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That I was unaware of, I always thought the P51 was the fastest from the many doco's ive seen. I stand corrected, the P-47 wasn't as good at dog fighting as the P51 but as hell was an awesome tank buster
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That, was sex on wings! Awesome! Thankyou
That youtube footage, confirmed what JD said in an earlier post. If I have a go at aerobatics, I will be blowing chunks, and I will be screaming!!!!
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Except the Yak 52 was designed and built in the '70sLove those WW2 Yak's
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Was referring to the Yak 9, hence why I said "love those WW2 Yak's"....not "love those WW2 Yak 52's"
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And don't worry about getting too crook as a passenger in an aerobatic plane, T.G.W..... properly executed aeros aren't too hard on the bod!
Snap rolls, spins and outside loops are a bit, but not a requirement to enjoy and experience an exciting aerobatic flight
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There is a great deal of mythology surrounding the 51, largely because of irascible old bastards like Yeager. Combined with the fact that the 51 was one of the few aircraft that remained on the active roster post-war and it seems like it was the only prop aircraft that was any "good". The D model was in fact a really difficult aircraft to fly when it was fully fuelled as the CG was moved aft of the Centre of Lift making it very unstable until that tank was burned off. One of the P51H test pilots (it may have even been Corky Meyer) reported getting tangled up with a F4U-5 over a Marine airbase near San Francisco in the lat '40s and discovered that the latest, greatest P51 couldn't hang with the latest model Corsair either in the vertical or a turning fight, plus it had much stronger acceleration. The F4U-5 pilot was John Glenn.
Robert Johnson would argue that in a pure dogfight the advantages of the 47 outweighed many of the perceived flaws and was happy to engage in mock combats with any aliied aircraft to prove the point. Out-zoom climbing Johnnie Johnson who was flying a Spitfire Mk IX disproved a perception that power to weight ratio hindered the 47 in the vertical in any way, and using this move to gain a dead 6 position of the Spit proceeded to give JEJ, the official highest Allied scoring Ace (excluding the Russkis), a lesson in vectors rolls and rolling scissors.
Flat turning in a dogfight is a good way to get killed and maintaining an energy advantage over an enemy is vital. A Spitfire is particularly good at flat turns, so Robert Johnson setup a fight to his advantage. A vector roll is where an enemy banks 90 degrees to the left, the following aircraft banks 270 degrees to the right and then uses the elevators to pull through the line of the aurcraft in front. Robert Johnson "invented" the vector roll to deal with supposedly more manouverable aircraft and this meant a firing solution could be presented very quickly. The P47 had a tremendous roll rate, only technically beaten by the early models of FW190 (A3-A5). Usuall the firing solution woul dend up with the aircraft out of sight under the nose, but Robert Johnson's Situational Awareness (something all motorcyclists should have in abundance) was so well developed that he would score without seeing the bullets hitting home. The weight of fire of 8 .50 caliber machine guns was pretty gnarly too.
Don't believe everything you read about an aircraft's performance. Just like motorcycling, it ain't the plane, it's the pilot.
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It's not the bod that's the issue. It's the head. If you don't know to look where the aircraft is going you get disoriented and ill really fast. Depends on whether or not the pile-it wants a laugh or is genuinely trying to make a passenger enjoy themselves.
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I'll give him a debriefing! (could be a chunky one
So James, are you saying "eyes front" at all times? Ooooooooooer I can feel the G's
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I used to do a lot of aerobatic flying... only had one victim that got crook!
And regarding the Mustang... the laminar flow wing was good for speed, but when it stalled, IT STALLED, no "in between" warnings as such
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Sorry to be a pedantic doodlehead, but no mass production aircraft had a laminar wing. The Mustang was a clean design, but got it's main speed boost from its radiator design. Cool air would go in and hot air would exit at a higher speed than it went in, creating boost. This is called the Meredith Effect.I used to do a lot of aerobatic flying... only had one victim that got crook!
And regarding the Mustang... the laminar flow wing was good for speed, but when it stalled, IT STALLED, no "in between" warnings as such
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The thing that I find rather frustrating is the conflicting info, in both doco's & online text, some completely contradict others
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And one well placed bullet could bring a P-51 to an inglorious end... I believe the engine ran for about 10 seconds once the coolant was gone.
Radial powered aircraft have been known to keep running even with a jug shot off
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