gypsy
what do we need to do matey....?Originally Posted by Skunk
i see it that IF you want to complain about anything..
DON"T FUCKIN COME...
if you want to race tell skunk and pay ya money.. i will be!!.. and if the bikes blow up before then, i will be waving a flag!!!
what a ride so far!!!!
RAG Racer
I agree completely
As a new comer to the sport, I don't understand what the fuss is to cover ourselves and the organizer (of which we used to have one).
When I stated to find out about buckets, I was told all the safety equipment I would need to race...A helmet, back brace leathers etc etc. Isn't having insurance just one more FUNDAMENTAL piece of safety equipment needed?!! It's prob more important as it covers everybody.
I am a poor bastard, and would have to cut something out in my budget to pay the extra $35, by I would/will HAPPILY do it so that I can race. I would hate to crash and have it ruin bucket racing and people as well for that matter.
And if everyone else (Auckland, Hastings, Christchurch) does it and has great events, why should we be any different?
It's still motor sport, which has accidents, but let's not wait for one to happen to ruin it for all of us.
This is unbelievable that people who were happy to run an event are now getting hassled to the point of not wanting to do anything for the sport at all. What the hell??
That's my newbe two cents worth.
Gingas get life...Why don't murderers and rapists?!
RAG Racing
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Eyes that shine burning red
It is amazing how a couple of people on this site can get themselves so wound up about the inclusion of MNZ in a bucket event, that they discourage those willing to put in the hard yards to set it up.
Nice work, not!!!!!
Blowin up bikes since ages ago
If you have something to say then say it to me straight. I offered to help out with the Easter Challenge and I have said my piece to Skunk about manning up and running an event the way he wants to and let the people turn up.
What I have done to piss people off is disagree about the direction Welly buckets is heading. If people want to end friendships over something like this than so be it but dont for a second think that I made that decision. I have voiced my opinion on matters but hold no personal vendetta's against anyone. If people want to do that with me than so be it my life will still go on.
"Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"
Po ta toes
Settle petal. I don't think anyone is holding any personal vendettas here. We are all entitled to voice our opinions and it would be sad if people can't get over themselves enough to be able to just get on with it and ruin friendships over a common interest that we should all be able to enjoy together.
How about we all just take a deep breath, nobody needs to be right or wrong about it, it's merely a difference of opinion.
I'm dictating this for Nigel "all I wanted to know is why shouldn't we use MNZ for the bucket only days? And cost is not the answer"
Who You Calling a Pig
I have plenty to share, any one want some
For the record Qkkid was in my bed, not the other way round
Up on 1 to save on tyre costs
Agreed.
I have plenty to share, any one want some
Seriously though I think this event for $115 is a complete deal. Awesome racing, awesome people, awesome track and a shitload of fun. Over 5 months warning to make that kind of money, pfft even I can do it on my shitty income.
Fair call if Skunk wants to play it extra safe for this event, it is likely to attract a much larger crowd than normal and more track time. There will be more crashing than usual most likely.
I haven't read it anywhere yet where it has said we will be introducing this to every bucket meeting here in Welly. So no need to fight. We should look forward to this event, I sure as hell am.
I think a disclaimer would be appropriate for each round and fun day we do if people are starting to get worried about lawsuits. Isn't it as easy as signing a form saying you yourself are responsible for any stupid shit that happens? Hell I have no problem being responsible for my own injuries. And if someone slams into me and hurts me, it's all part of racing. (If there isn't already one for each bucket event we do, I just sign my life away where I'm told because I just want to race)
Registered User
Unfortunately, no. What happens is the Police will investigate and decide if the event was being run as it should. If it was (or wasn't) they then decide whether to press charges. Then Lawyers string it out as long as possible to make as much money as possible. This is the bit I was concerned about; for me.
OK, a death is really, really, really unlikely. But so is my house burning down and I insure that. We already run the events much like they would under MNZ already so there really isn't any change to the event itself.
Up on 1 to save on tyre costs
Ok. Well I have no problem at all doing the MNZ thing for this one event. But this cotten wool bullshit everything is coming to drives me crazy.
bucket horder
Ta for that. You gotta love bureaucracy. And thanks to Skunk for taking on the challenge of this event
Yes 4 strokes are for homos. Homo-sapiens that is, who have realized bigger is better.
MotoFXR's will rule the world!
Welcome to our world guys,(and you're starting to bicker like us too). Trust me on this, Skunk is on the right track with this one. Short of dragging the body out to the main road and ringing the cops there this is the only sensible way to do it.
If the worst happened, everyone on here would be giving the smelly one electronic support but who would be standing beside him in court? I'd say fook all.
This is what happened down here a few years back and its part of the popularity growth that buckets are enjoying, sorry to the knockers of this "change" of your future........Get the fook over it!
Its harder to lose weight than gain horsepower.
Moped rider
I've been racing road and velodrome (2 wheel pedal power) for years, and club membership/day license and subsequent national body coverage is important for insurance and OSH liability reasons. You are not permitted to race unless you have this national, club or day license, and we race every week for 2/3 of the year, sometimes 2 or 3 times a week in peak season.
IMHO it is necessary to have at minimum day licenses, if you as a participant do not want to purchase this then you should not be racing.
To do otherwise is to put the event organizer at considerable legal and financial risk, and you're being selfish to assume the event organizer(s) should be happy to expose themselves to this.
There is legal precedent set in a Christchurch bike race, fortunately overturned on appeal but the event (Le Race) was not run for several years after, and it financially ruined Astrid Anderson as well as her event management company.
my 2c from sunny Toronto, Canada...
Hopefully see you guys out on the track early November
J
Moped rider
Stupid stuff happens when the red mist comes down. The issue is OSH and I for one would be happy to fork out the $35 extra for the 2 day event if it indemnifies the event organizer.
We'd need to address the "season" membership/indemnity separately I think.
FWIW a BikeNZ "club" level license was only about $40 / year, national license was only about $100, and I think an international license was well under $200.
J
Moped rider
Damn straight.
J
Hardcore Biker
Would it be worth talkin to the kart oranizers to see what they need to do legally. They don't seem to charge us for a day licence and i wonder what thier conditions are. Might be a cheper way to look at it...maybe.
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