Do firefighters deserve a raise?

[p.dath]

Do you have any idea how much they get paid? or are just saying no cause its a recession

Somewhere around $50k, unless they are of a senior rank. They also get the option of earning more with additional shifts. So the actual pay could be quite a bit more.

And "no" because it is a recession. The country doesn't really have spare cash to throw around. Wait till we are into positive growth. I'd prefer to spend the money on policing and health care at the moment, like the Government already is.

[Headbanger]

They deserve better pay then bastard politicians.

Whose going to turn up and save your bacon when you go to sleep with the chips frying?

Ghostbusters?...The Maori Party?....John Keys press sectary?

Fuck no.

Fire fucking fighters.

Champions.






mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............bacon.

[AllanB]

Max pay of $59k for a Station Manager - someone who has probably spend years as a FF and then got promoted. Bugger that.

Yes.

[Slicksta]

Perhaps your wording is'nt quite the way you meant it be?

Do firefighters deserve a pay raise?

Would this be more what you were meaning;

Should firefighters get a raise?

There's a difference between deserving one and whether it's realistically possible.

I have my own views which would get me into trouble, so i'll keep em' to meself. Although they'd surprise most of you i'd say.

I'm really legitimately not into it for the money, I love my job, and the work I get to do in the community (really). I'm not into the politics or the other crap. But as I said the rest i'll keep to myself.

My apologies. My grammar sucks esp after a busy week at work and not much sleep..

Personally I voted yes they deserve (in my opinion) to be paid the same as a police officer.

[p.dath]

How about this for an interesting question. Completely forget what they get paid now. Lets say were were employing our first professional firefighters, and starting again.

The new applicants would have to be preppred to do shift work, work in a dangerous environment, be physically fit, already experienced in fire fighting, and prepared to undergo a lot of training.
The advantages are a lot of job satisfaction from saving people, building strong relationships in your team and keeping fit.

What should this person be paid?

Comparitive numbers:
* Average NZ Wage $46k (http://theyworkforyou.co.nz/portfoli...ct/09/taxation)
* Teachers who have done a 3 year degree get around $45k (someone correct me if I'm way out - I used to be married to a senior teacher who got paid around $50k in a public school)
* Federated Farmers says 1 farmer dies every two weeks (so higher risk than a fire fighter I would think) (http://www.fedfarm.org.nz/eventsandtraining). A Dairy farm assistant earns $34k (http://www.careers.govt.nz/default.a...103&id1=J67110).

[Hitcher]

Four days on, four days off. Most firefighters I suspect have another business or a job that they work at on their days off.

I lost a lot of respect for firefighters when they (their union) wasted taxpayers' money on a citizen initiated referendum on what was an matter best addressed directly with their employer.

[p.dath]

I was just listening to the voices in my head again. Is it just me, or do a lot of the better paid jobs tend to be Government paid?

e,g. Police, Fire fighters, public sector doctors, armed forces, public sector nurses, zillions of management and consultants, etc.

I wonder what the average wage would become if you removed all public sector jobs from the equation. I wonder if it would go up or down.

[Maha]

I think the money gets better the higher up the ladder they go.

[dogsnbikes]

I was told there was a 2 year waiting list to join! That was bullshit as there is no waiting list but hundreds apply and not many get through! Decided to wait until i pack on a bit more muscle before i even bother applying. Even considered joining the Army to do firefighting.

or the Airforce

yeah they do deserve a pay increase....regardless of what there shift's are anyone know?? 4 on 4 off ?? hitcher has answer dial up takes so dam long at times

Maybe just maybe everytime polliticions get a rise the emergancy services get a rise.....

[allycatz]

Well I think yes and how about the volunteer firefighters, mostly self employed that leave their jobs for callouts getting paid as well.....perhaps part of our fire levies on insurance can go towards it instead of the coffers of overseas based insurance companies. I don't envy them scraping road victims up off the highways

[coffeejunkie]

Of course they deserve a payrise.....

They run into burning buildings to save ppl with out thinking of themselves, Thats gotta take guts or a big set of man nuts thats for sure.

Balzys bro is a vollie and i know afew full timers.....they earn their money hard out

go the firefighters

[Hitcher]

I was just listening to the voices in my head again. Is it just me, or do a lot of the better paid jobs tend to be Government paid?

e,g. Police, Fire fighters, public sector doctors, armed forces, public sector nurses, zillions of management and consultants, etc.

I wonder what the average wage would become if you removed all public sector jobs from the equation. I wonder if it would go up or down.

Give those voices in your head some medication. You worry about some strangely odd stuff.

Despite the best efforts of the politically correct, pay equity is dead and buried. And thank goodness for that. The thought of some taxpayer-funded tribunal deciding whether or not nurses should be paid more or less than teachers relative to police or drainlayers beggars belief.

The market has many failings. Deciding the relative values of different professions isn't one of them.

[sil3nt]

Volunteers are just that..volunteers. They do it because the love it. They get paid petrol money they do not need to get paid for the job they want to do. My girlfriend is a volunteer firefighter and not once has she ever complained about not getting paid!

[bsasuper]

They get plenty of overtime and perks now, no need to get greedy.

[Dave Lobster]

Any profession that has a queue of people for each application is never going to be paid more, is it?
What's the point, from the employer's point of view?
Any disgruntled staff that leave can be replaced within seconds.

I deserve a payrise. I haven't had one for three years. But then, I don't work for the government.