The H bomb in Wanganui

[tri boy]

Headbangerville has a nice ring to it.
I've bought some paint n brushes and heading to the anus of the nth island to touch up the signage.
Should be able to earn a quid or two.

[short-circuit]

Since when was democracy used to decide on the correct spelling of a language - get a grip retards....

Shouting you're a racist first is like the person in the room who's usually first to detect a fart.

If the democratic argument stood up - we'd be speaking chinese or indian

[trustme]

The day that maori leaders like Mair & Turia take a stand against the gangs & say it is not Ok to peddle drugs to our kids.
The day maori leaders start taking a real stand against domestic violence & the high rate of infant mortality [ murder ] amongst maori
The day the maori leaders start to develop programs to reduce the overrepresentaion of maori in our jails & on our dole queues.
The day that maori leadership starts to take real meaningful steps towards improving the lot of joe average maori & getting them better educated.

That is the day I will happily put an H in Wanganui, that is the day we will begin to make real progress.

[wbks]

Since when was democracy used to decide on the correct spelling of a language - get a grip retards....

Shouting you're a racist first is like the person in the room who's usually first to detect a fart.

If the democratic argument stood up - we'd be speaking chinese or indian

It's not about the spelling of a language, it's about not bending over to change the name of a place that has been there for 130 years just because a small group of people come along and want to change it. But because they're Maori, somehow their opinion is more important than 70% of Wanganui.

[Headbanger]

Racism is a funny thing in NZ.

People, Like Short-Circuit and SPB have been hoodwinked into believing that special compensation must be made to one specific race at all times or its racist, when the exact oposite is true.

This view of Maori is condescending and degrading, and those I know would be insulted deeply if I tried to treat them as less capable and in need of special treatment due to their race. I respect those I know too much as people to ever think along those lines.

At the end of the day it fosters a culture of the world owes me a living, which just courts failure and dependence on the state.

The name Wanganui was decided upon by the city forefathers 170 years ago, and to this day the people of Wanganui are happy with it, There is no mistake to be corrected.

[merv]

So how come when the English speaking missionaries came out here and heard the Maoris speaking they didn't translate the "f" sound to be an "f' therefore spelling it for them as Fonganui?

Whangarei should have been Fongaray.

Somehow I don't think the Maoris could have been saying it as a hard 'f" else it would have got spelt like they were.

Anyway I'm all for two names. In a bi-cultural country both languages should have their own spelling of names and they can both go on signs.

[wbks]

Anyway I'm all for two names. In a bi-cultural country both languages should have their own spelling of names and they can both go on signs.

There are two cultures in NZ?

[davereid]

So how come when the English speaking missionaries came out here and heard the Maoris speaking they didn't translate the "f" sound to be an "f' therefore spelling it for them as Fonganui?

Other Pacific Islands that have maori - tahitian as their root language are full of place names said with an F. Pretty clearly, if europeans heard an F in the name, thats how they spelled it.

Language is dynamic. The version of English that my grandchildren use is dynamically different in pronounciation, grammer, and even word usage to that used by my grandfather.

I guess we are now to change all place names as their pronounciation changes with time. New Zealand will become Nu Zilland, Auckland will become Orklund, and Eketahuna is fucked.

[merv]

There are two cultures in NZ?

According to the Treaty yes, that's what it is legally, and the two languages (along with sign language I think) are the official languages of the Nation.

Those of other cultures are lumped into the "rest" being "Tangata Tiriti".

[FROSTY:Me]

Law's is the racist. Non coercive leadership is what is needed in Whanganui, and not totalitarian control.

Dude are you taking the piss? PLEASE tell me you are.
Totally ignoring if you like or dislike the people concerned
The way I see it is if 50.0001% of the voting population voted for the name change then hey thats democracy at work --all good.
But when my a huge margin the voting population voted NOT to change the name then that should be the end of it.
That to me is racism at its very worst.

[Swoop]

Jesus guys, the town voted NO...


Laws is coming from the point of view of his people, thats what a Mayor is employed to do, duh!

A remarkable change from a politician... taking direction from the electorate who he is working for.

Nice post. Bling to you!

[SixPackBack]

Racism is a funny thing in NZ.

People, Like Short-Circuit and SPB have been hoodwinked into believing that special compensation must be made to one specific race at all times or its racist, when the exact oposite is true.

This view of Maori is condescending and degrading, and those I know would be insulted deeply if I tried to treat them as less capable and in need of special treatment due to their race. I respect those I know too much as people to ever think along those lines.

At the end of the day it fosters a culture of the world owes me a living, which just courts failure and dependence on the state.

The name Wanganui was decided upon by the city forefathers 170 years ago, and to this day the people of Wanganui are happy with it, There is no mistake to be corrected.

Christ what a fuss over the letter 'H'

Yeah I agree with you to a certain extent headbanger, certainly having Maori only seats in the supercity scares the shit out me. But lets get a grip placing the 'H' into Wanganui hardly rates a mention, the folk that care the most are from the same group that [questionably] cause most of your gang problems!?....getting them onside by changing a few sign posts would seem to be a no brainer.

Retention of Mana [self respect], upholding the treaty [both Pakeha and Maori signed], non coercive leadership [law's is incapable of this], losing the gang patch ban.......These are all pointers that would quickly turn Wanganui around!

As far as Law's is concerned; he is a self serving shit stirrer playing on the very worst of Wanganui's collective intelligence [or lack off]. Other individuals in history have been able to foster the same kind of collective negative response [I will not mention his name]....Law's is of the same elk...

[Flatcap]

The ironic thing is that the Wanganui ratepayers who voted against the change will now have to pay via rates to physically make the name change.

That would be somewhat annoying...

[imdying]

77% of Wanganui reckon the niggers can eat a dick... what about their rights? The irony is that most of the coons are illiterate and will be txting it as 'da nui bro' anyway, so another consonant will make fuck all difference. Still there is hope... we've managed to avoid adding to the apartheid in NZ by telling them to shove their super city seats, maybe Williamson will see sense here too.

[wbks]

77% of Wanganui reckon the niggers can eat a dick... what about their rights? The irony is that most of the coons are illiterate and will be txting it as 'da nui bro' anyway, so another consonant will make fuck all difference.

Those cuddly southern folk...