YSS suspension brand?

**JD Racing** · 24th June 2009, 20:35

Originally Posted by trustme

I get the feeling there is a certain amount of antipathy towards RT, simply because people percieve there is no viable alternative. RT sets the benchmark He provides a top quality product with top quality back up & service .The others have to lift their game if they want to compete, that costs money & is a long term investment , most suppliers won't be interested ,Too much effort for too little increase in the bottom line profit margin, Flog what comes , never mind the backup, take the money & run .
This is not an attack on Whites, simply a reflection on the way most importers operate, none of the other shock suppliers seem to be doing any better. It is a pity Shaun could not have got the Penske deal going ,

To me it will be worth the extra $300

Your almost there in what your saying. Robert has set a benchmark that really should be the industry standard, and that level of service costs a serious amount of money, however there just isn't the market there to support more than one company at that level. You only have to read this board, talk to riders, go to a race meeting and you'll soon learn that very few appreciate good suspension, most think they don't need it, few want to pay a reasonable amount for it, there just isn't the money in NZ motorcycling to support another serious suspension company. There will always be opportunists who can see a way to make a quick buck and that's the way it will stay until market conditions are suitable for someone else to enter the fray.

**cowpoos** · 24th June 2009, 20:38

Originally Posted by tri boy

A phrase used by Snap On tools is quite fitting for this thread. It reads:
"We'd rather explain the price of quality,
than have to apologise for something less."

and yet...there are better than snapon tools!!!

**Robert Taylor** · 25th June 2009, 09:31

Actually I disagee about Penske quality, its right up there as a very well built product with excellent materials. There are some things they do that are better than Ohlins.
Pricing though is a problem as they are lower volume with a greater component of hand build. Race Tech have now also started building a limited number of shocks for late model sportsbikes and I have absolutely no doubt that they will perform very well. But again pricing is a problem, their top of the line race shock retails at about US$1600, no need to work out what that will be in NZ$ with freight, clearances, gst etc.
JD is VERY correct about the cost of infrastructure. Springs are the biggest headache, we always have too many but at the same time never enough, at cost we have nigh on $40,000 in springs alone. Everytime I fly to Sweden for a technical update etc its goodbye to $6000. When you account for the size of the market, stock levels, equipment required, staff and cost of keeping staff, travel and time at race meetings, pressure from parasitical imports etc etc ad infinitum it doesnt fully stack up!
Its great to have Shaun Harris representing Ohlins / Race Tech because of his legendary setup skills and to interface to customers who may struggle with our ''mumbojumbo techspeak''!!!!

**roogazza** · 25th June 2009, 10:05

Originally Posted by JD Racing

Your almost there in what your saying. Robert has set a benchmark that really should be the industry standard, and that level of service costs a serious amount of money, however there just isn't the market there to support more than one company at that level. You only have to read this board, talk to riders, go to a race meeting and you'll soon learn that very few appreciate good suspension, most think they don't need it, few want to pay a reasonable amount for it, there just isn't the money in NZ motorcycling to support another serious suspension company. There will always be opportunists who can see a way to make a quick buck and that's the way it will stay until market conditions are suitable for someone else to enter the fray.

I popped up to Manfeild Sunday,and was chatting to Kerry Dukie while he changed tyres in the back of his truck. Seems his kingdom is growing well, and on wandering around, I did notice a lot of his stickers on bikes.
But yes, the market here is very small to support too many. Gaz.

**Robert Taylor** · 25th June 2009, 20:27

We spend a LOT of money on product advertising, magazine articles and on this forum answering questions etc. Our investment in the supension industry is substanial. The reality is there will always be other people feeding off the fruits of such promotion.

**steelestring** · 2nd October 2009, 15:23

Originally Posted by tri boy

I'm not in the market anymore for shocks/forks etc, as RT has sorted my bikes, but another brand is starting to emerge out of Thailand called YSS.
The Aussies have started to distribute them, and some decent feed back is burbling to the top.

www.yss-suspension.com

OK, what you pay is what you get, and after sales service in NZ is probably nil, but some decent Oz talent has put a fair bit of input into the specs, and if QC is maintained, maybe they might be OK.

I am still very interested in seeing if anyone has actually given a shock a good test yet.. I am not stiring the pot to get burnt here

I have a had a look into this... but still... I dream of ohlins. If i had my way most things in my would be made of yellow springs, not of chocolate...

**Shaun** · 4th October 2009, 06:38

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

We spend a LOT of money on product advertising, magazine articles and on this forum answering questions etc. Our investment in the supension industry is substanial. The reality is there will always be other people feeding off the fruits of such promotion.

Burp! That was after feeding

**HDTboy** · 4th October 2009, 10:47

Originally Posted by Shaun

Burp! That was after feeding

How was the food mate? Are we talking 5 star cuisine, or KFC grade rubbish?

**Shaun** · 4th October 2009, 11:19

Originally Posted by HDTboy

How was the food mate? Are we talking 5 star cuisine, or KFC grade rubbish?

5 Star Dude, just had a great dump also

**steelestring** · 4th October 2009, 11:45

the other, other white meat?

**cs363** · 4th October 2009, 12:02

Originally Posted by Shaun

5 Star Dude, just had a great dump also

You manufacturing YSS now?

**HDTboy** · 4th October 2009, 12:02

Originally Posted by Shaun

5 Star Dude, just had a great dump also

Awesome! Was it a well formed dark brown bourbon dump? Or does it come out grated/ pureed due to all the modifications you've had in that region? Did you take a book in with you? How smelly was it on a 1-10 scale?

**Shaun** · 4th October 2009, 12:45

Originally Posted by HDTboy

Awesome! Was it a well formed dark brown bourbon dump? Or does it come out grated/ pureed due to all the modifications you've had in that region? Did you take a book in with you? How smelly was it on a 1-10 scale?

10! Big boy. Grated, and we will leave it at that eh

**mossy1200** · 4th October 2009, 13:31

I have a pair of them on the back of my 08 bonneville and they are better than stock shocks.Dont think I would want to race on them but $300 for a marked improvement was what I was after and at that price chuck them and rebuy rather than service them.Only playing with 60hp though.