The Daktory - West Auckland Cannabis Social Club

[scissorhands]

You perfer no disincentive to stop driving under the influence of drugs?

I hate the thought of fuckers out of their brains on P, or chill-laxed after a few spliffs driving towards me or my wife / kids.


Fuck 'em I say. Test away and get them off the roads. Dont like it - dont do drugs, or dont drive.

To make the roads really safe, we could test for excess caffiene, anger or limit vehicle power too??

From what I've seen with my own eyes, being around heavier users, very young and older stoners at The Daktory.... coordination and logical rationale seem to be absolutely fine for normal driving, with those drivers accustomed to the effects of grass, who are moderate. My pool game is now the best its ever been....and my table tennis is pretty mean. I'd say after 2 or 3 beers, neither my pool or ping pong would be very good, yet I could be under the limit for alcohol.

Most people do drive with some alcohol in their system. Having some cannabis in the system is probably less dangerous, especially as you could very well drive slower, with less aggression towards other road users.

Yet the prohibitionists would probably disagree.

[Tank]

Most people do drive with some alcohol in their system. Having some cannabis in the system is probably less dangerous, especially as you could very well drive slower, with less aggression towards other road users.

Yet the prohibitionists would probably disagree.

I'm not a prohibitionists - but - here is a simply question - why do they drive slower?

Nothing to do with being impared or anything?

Also remember that the drug testing is going to get P heads off the road as well.

Im sure that the stoners will probally disagree - and I hope that they dont end up having to change their mind after a tragic accident.

[scissorhands]

I just think its a moot point.

Powerful vehicles, new car ads, 5th gear, motor racing on TV, lack of youth training, alcohol, coffee, anger, ill health and age, emotional problems, congestion frustration...all cause accidents and death on the roads.

I personally know a shit load of long term and high use stoners, NZ is full of them. Accident stats from my friends and acquaintances is very very low. I swear on my pharmacist grandmothers grave....

The recent testing program has begun at a time when National Party MP's all got bullied into voting 100% against the medical marijuana legislation. As much of it is to do with road safety, much more is to do with prohibition and alcohol tax.

No P no alcohol no dogs @ The Daktory

From what I've seen, ability to drive depends on how accustomed to cannabis the user is. I would never drive boozed but I would drive after a beer or two. Same with cannabis

[avgas]

Typical, it had to be in West Auckland.

Ah well, it's better than the bloody meth they all seem to be on.

Which is out of the system within 24 hours - so all those lawyer/management P addicts can continue getting snotted at home and come to work the next day with a clear system. Makes roadside tests a bit questionable

[avgas]

I'm not a prohibitionists - but - here is a simply question - why do they drive slower?

Cos its hard to change the radio and read the speedo at the same time man

[gatch]

Sounds like a pretty hard case place, I wonder how many fights break out there ha.

The thing that puts me off smoking more often is the abundance of bud thats just puts people to sleep if you have a tiny bit too much, which funnily enough alot of people like

[scissorhands]

In the harold 4:00 AM Sunday Apr 12, 2009

Cannabis club tilts at the law

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/david-fish...0566272&pnum=1

A club for cannabis smokers has been openly flouting the law for months, with hundreds of people a night turning up to buy and smoke dope.

The "Daktory" has been operating from an Auckland warehouse since November and boasts having 400 people on a busy night.

Those behind the scheme are involved in efforts to have the drug decriminalised, and say they accept arrest by police is a possible outcome of their provocative club.

One of those involved, Brian Borland, has taken a further tilt at authority by registering a business through the Companies Office called the Roaring Lion Cannabis Shoppe.

He says he will pay tax on any cannabis he sells through the business.

As a promotional stunt, Borland has delivered cannabis plants to the electorate office of Prime Minister John Key, and also to TVNZ and TV3.

It follows a trip around the country by the National Organisation for the Reform of Marijuana Laws group in its "canna-bus". Protests were held in centres across the country where cannabis was smoked - and overlooked by police.
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Daktory manager Dakta Green, who changed his name by deed poll from Kenneth Morgan, says police appeared to have been avoiding arrests because it gave the protesters a platform to campaign from.

The club began operating in November, charging $20 a month to those who wanted to become members. "It was a nice, secure place where people can get good quality weed at a reasonable price."

Green says it proved so popular that the club - which was R18 - would attract between 300 and 400 people a night, and membership reached 1500 people by Christmas. He would not reveal where he sourced the cannabis but said the large membership meant a lot was sold.

It wound down in February for reorganisation, and is reopening this week. This time, Green says it will not sell cannabis because "you can get it anywhere".

When the Herald on Sunday visited, the warehouse featured dozens of sofas, tables and bookcases, with an area for table tennis and a bandstand. There were also dozens of bongs - used for smoking cannabis - and the occasional bowl containing shreds of the drug.

Borland said police were aware of his actions. A detective recently rang to invite him to a police station to be interviewed about delivering cannabis plants to television stations.

He answered the phone with a cheery "Roaring Lion Cannabis Shoppe", only to find a police officer on the phone.

Borland was not charged over delivering the cannabis plants. Police failed to return calls to answer questions about the club.

[LBD]

No one has ever died smoking cannabis, no matter how much they consume.

Think again buddy....the below is also the case with one of 3 children of a friend.....


Studies have shown an increased risk of certain cancers, such as leukemia, in children whose mother's smoked cannabis while pregnant.

[gwigs]

Think again buddy....the below is also the case with one of 3 children of a friend.....


Studies have shown an increased risk of certain cancers, such as leukemia, in children whose mother's smoked cannabis while pregnant.

What studies?

[Brian d marge]

Sounds like a place to go !

if it gets too populars ,,its gone ,,,,

Download the BBc doco evil weed ,,,those that smoke when half way through ,,, in England

Scientist man ( with papers) mince a a fair few tonnes ,,,they grow 65 tonnes a year ! IN ENGLAND all legal like


Other than that its an interesting doco

Stephen

[LBD]

What studies?

Some of the below links are for the argument and some are against(Balanced so to say)...At the end of the day there is enough smoke to call the fire brigade to the fire....

http://www.aadac.com/547_1216.asp

http://www.drugtext.org/library/articles/nanahas.html

http://www.beyondfertility.com/art199.htm

http://www.nevdgp.org.au/info/std_mi...juanaQuit.html

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6891#childhood

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...TRY=1&SRETRY=0

[p.dath]

No one has ever died smoking cannabis, no matter how much they consume.

Your teasing right? That's like saying no one has died smoking tobacco cigarettes.

[p.dath]

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/social.htm

Some highlights:

The National Institute on Drug Abuse has surveyed and compiled 11 scientific research studies that have demonstrated that heavy marijuana use, defined as smoking marijuana 27 days in the past 30 days, has a significant impact on users' ability to learn, remember what they learned and function in society.

•Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely to experience increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover.

•Workers who test positive for marijuana use have 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared to non-smokers.

•Heavy marijuana abusers self-report that their use of the drug had negative effects on their cognitive abilities, career status, social life, and physical and mental health.

•Significantly impair skills related to attention, memory and learning even after not smoking for 24 hours.

•Cause problems in sustaining and shifting attention.

•Effect the ability to register, organize and use information, even compared to occasional users of marijuana.

•Impair users' ability to recall words from a list even a week after quitting marijuana use.

[gammaguy]

im a live and let live person,so if you people want to smoke weed,socialise and generally hang out and live the smokers equivalent of the good life,so be it and more power to you.

If however you think that riding a motorcycle on the road which other people(such as me),people who choose not to ride or drive under the influence of brain altering substances,is perfectly OK then you are removing our choices to travel safely and unhindered.

The very reason people smoke marijuana is for the brain altering experience,so please dont tell me that it does not affect your driving/riding skills,because that is clearly untrue.

I prefer to use the road beleiving that the others i share the road with are to all intents and purposes in control of their faculties,not willingly or unwillingly degrading those abilities.

you all enjoy your smoke,have a good time.

please dont impose your choices on me,and i wont impose mine on you.

fair exchange i think.

if i see people driving erratically,badly or dangerously,i regularly *555 them in a heartbeat.i could not live with myself if two km down the road they killed or injured someone and i could have done something about it.

[scissorhands]

okay okay, I just saw current threads glorifying hard liquor, with no comments even starting to hint at moderation...... mention cannabis and people start preaching to you

When I said 'No one has ever died smoking cannabis, no matter how much they consume', I was referring to death from intoxication( you said reefer).

I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, but I do feel cannabis has been unjustly targeted relative to alcohol's position in the forum here.

I don not wish to argue or defend cannabis here, like espresso coffee, its just not that important to me