Morons on Grays Road, Pauatahanui yesterday

[red mermaid]

Yeah, sorry, you've lost me too! Are you saying that every police officer who pulls over a motorcyclist for what he/she perceives to be dangerous riding behaviour is in the wrong? Or are you obtusely trying to say that every motorcyclist who ever gets pulled over (the KB law) is wrongly targeted by people who wouldn't know amazingly skillful riding if it jumped up and bit them on the arse?

'... something driving dangerously' - um, things don't drive dangerously, people do.

Or is this a dig at us for something you think we've personally done to you (whoever you are)?

No, what Im getting at is when you are out there doing your job, you see someone do something stupid (dangerous), stop them and tell them they are getting a ticket, and then the moaning starts about you not knowing what you are talking about and how it never really happened...and from personal experience I know it does.

[Ratti]

I count 7/8 straights before the hill that are pefectly acceptable to overtake, even on a low powered bike. Add to that the many corners that you might, with the advantage of greater visability, with some speed on quite happily overtake.

Hi Fatjim
Hey Dude., I drove Grays Rd yesterday. I counted 2 places I'd be happy to overtake, 1 that I probably could do it safely if so inclined and 3 that would be out of my comfort zone, but a better rider might consider if the conditions were right. None of them on a double yellow line....

Just out of interest, how fast do you reckon you can cover the road from the intersection at the village to the black and white striped poles at the Plimmerton end? The poles are just before you head uphill into the residential area.

[Fatjim]

I don't know. I never time myself, and on any group ride I'm lucky if I'm mid pack.

And please, there's at least two places I'd overtake if the road was clear and I had the wife and kids in the car! And not many people drive slower than me! so if you're riding a bike and you are THAT scared of overtaking then really, take a nana pill.

As for bleating about double yellow lines. They don't neccessarily indicate relative safety, they indicate where it is illegal to overtake a motorised vehicle.

[Deano]

Funny thread.

180kph is certainly do-able on the first and last straights, and in safety as well.

As for overtaking, fuck me, there's heaps of opportunities if you know what you're doing and your bike has enough power. AND do it safely as well.

[MSTRS:Me]

Funny thread.

180kph is certainly do-able on the first and last straights, and in safety as well.

As for overtaking, fuck me, there's heaps of opportunities if you know what you're doing and your bike has enough power. AND do it safely as well.

Naughty boy...is that all?
And yep...definitely plenty of places. There were plenty 35 years ago when the road was much tighter and the bikes not as quick.

[quickbuck]

They don't neccessarily indicate relative safety, they indicate where it is illegal to overtake a motorised vehicle.

You mean, it is illegal to overtake a motorised vehicle if YOU CROSS OVER THEM....

And Double yellow lines mean nothing more than a single yellow line on your side of the road... apart from usually there is two lots of rumble bits in them now.... I only know that from looking at them up close by the way.

So in reality on a motorcycle you can actually pass along the whole road IF the vehicle you are over taking moves over and gives you enough room to do it safely.
This includes all the other provisos... like not exceeding the speed limit. Of course you are able to overtake with on coming traffic, as there is no way you will cross the yellow... right?
As it happens, I wouldn't though.
No point giving poor grandad coming the other way a heart attach when he sees two vehicles coming at him even if they are in the opposing lane.

As it happens, the traffic I encountered down SH1 on the 2nd was VERY good at pulling over to let me by. Top marks to them all. A friendly wave was always given too.
I passed them while remaining in the lane and didn't need to unleash 100hp and 130dB out the Zorst to get the job done.... so this was much easier for all concerned.

Oh, and those wobbles 24xxx experienced were most likely caused by his compression, and rebound on the shock set too low for the fisting he was giving the throttle.
All throttle movements should be SMOOTH too....

[boomer]

i ride like that every day... u sound like moaning old people.

[Deano]

Naughty boy...is that all?

Oh I'm certainly not advocating that anyone try to do 180kph along there, only that it could be done and in relative safety, if one was so inclined

[riffer]

I ride this road damn near every day (it's part of my daily commute). I'm with Fatjim and Deano on this one; there are a number of places where someone who knows the road and is willing to push it a bit can overtake there.

But if you don't know what you're doing, don't try it. You can easily look like an idiot or hurt yourself on that road.

And yes 180km/hr is definitely achievable on that road (DAMHIK).

[gwigs]

And yes 180km/hr is definitely achievable on that road (DAMHIK).

Be Quiet Katman might be listening....shhhh.

[mattian]

*555 their asses or make a formal complaint at the cop shop. To just watch people behave like dickheads in front of you and then do nothing about it, apart from come on here and moan about it is a little weak to be honest.

[Fatjim]

Beemer, you are a rare woman. Not only do you know what colour your car is, but you now the model of it as well!! !!

But seriously, how long have you been riding? I don't recall you being a noob. Why lean on your partners experience. Girls can ride bikes well too, they're not just good at cleaning them! Get out there and really look at the road while you're on the bike. Test the acceleration, the time exposed on the other side, and how much room you really need. Work on your timing, your planning to overtake, work on your corner speed so you are better setup to slingshot past out of corners. All things that will serve you well on the road. These aren't racing techniques, they are riding techniques.

You'll be suprised. Add to that that the average speed of cars is well under 80kph on that road, and the relative acceleration of your bike will be greatly enhanced.

I think if you think that there are not safe places to overtake on Greys road on a motorbike, whether they are yellowed lined or not shows to me that you ride kinda like you drive, and riding and driving are two very different things.

[Fatjim]

Funny thread.

180kph is certainly do-able on the first and last straights, and in safety as well.

As for overtaking, fuck me, there's heaps of opportunities if you know what you're doing and your bike has enough power. AND do it safely as well.

Can't add bling, so I'm forced to publicly give you a big hug!!! just joking.

Thanks mate, thought I was going insane.

[scumdog]

i ride like that every day... u sound like moaning old people.

Well I suppose even unco spastics are allowed to share the roads...

[MSTRS:Me]

i ride like that every day... u sound like moaning old people.

I'm not worried. At long as I don't smell like old people, all is well in my world...