Waitangi Day

[zahria]

Im here, anyone want to apologise on the mess the English made the Maori today???

Haha!! Sounds like a Tui billboard!!

[wbks]

I don't wanna punch him...a kick up the arse to get reversing some of the last 9 years of socialist bollocks, but not a punch as such...

What the fuck is wrong with the degree of socialism in NZ? Would you prefer to have a mirrage of wealth like the majority of yanks?

But Crazyhorse, the Europeans took Maori women as their wife's starting from before the treaty. Apparently the Maori women were 'beautiful' to the English men so they acted on it.
Bit before the 1900's the Maori men were in a shortage of Maori women and the population came to an equilibrium at 60,000 people on both sides then years after that Maori became a minority.

'There's three cookies on a table, two of the most finest to you get taken, if you leave the last cookie on the table there its going to go stale and off, best to eat it all up.'

So Maoris and White people bred with each other, what's wrong with that? If all races were "Pure" we'd all be inbred... In fact, with such a small original number of maoris to last Maori almost a thousand years I'd say they needed a bigger genetic pool eventually... Unless of course you like breeding with distant relatives

[crazyhorse]

'There's three cookies on a table, two of the most finest to you get taken, if you leave the last cookie on the table there its going to go stale and off, best to eat it all up.'

That is an interesting statement you have there.

However, as I am not English, I will argue your other viewpoint, as I clearly do not know enough of that. However, I would have thought that the Maori were fairly well populated prior to the first boat arriving and it would have taken many years for the English to have made the move here and for the numbers to have over ruled the quota you describe causing the reduction of true Maori to occur.

[wbks]

There isnt any Maori people, we are extinct, there is no such thing as a Maori only a 'Eastern European sub group' or 'Half/quarter cast'. So where do we feel a belonging, doesent everyone deserve to have a sense of belonging or roots to culture and its people because we cant all ours is turned into Scottish or Irish. Hell up north alot of Maori have mixes with the Yugoslavians. Europeans have taken that away from us.

So Dean... Why not celebrate your Scottish or Irish and Maori heritage? If you go far enough back into your family tree you will trace back to Asia within a few thousand years, so does that mean you will call your Maori ancestry "irrelivant"?

[crazyhorse]

So Dean... Why not celebrate your Scottish or Irish and Maori heritage? If you go far enough back into your family tree you will trace back to Asia within a few thousand years, so does that mean you will call your Maori ancestry "irrelivant"?

That is actually a valid point... family trees are not a one sided affair

[Dean]

So Dean... Why not celebrate your Scottish or Irish and Maori heritage? If you go far enough back into your family tree you will trace back to Asia within a few thousand years, so does that mean you will call your Maori ancestry "irrelivant"?

wbks and Crazyhorse.

If I go far back in gene's as Scientists have done, that is go further then just the 5 different races everybody spawned off from the continents, I will find we all came from one man and one women, who knows how they ended up there but that means we are all inbred it just depends on how far back you want to go. But we dont like to acknowledge it like that do we? Same then that Maori like to acknowledge our heritage which started from Hawaiki us being Tangata Whenua.

Also how can I take pride and learn in what I dont know, what is not classified or similar as Maori culture and language - that is Taiwanese culture and language, since we came from them.

I do respect my Scottish heritage I know where my Scottish fam came from and what village.
Difference is, Maori is mostly mentioned on here mainly because people on KB blame the Maori for being the most drag down to the country and its economy - wrong, we are products of Europeans, its like wbks mother calling him a 'son of a bitch'.

[SMOKEU]

Any volunteers to throw a punch at John Key this year? Any takers?

It's tempting. but I'd end up K9 if I did.

[wbks]

wbks and Crazyhorse.

If I go far back in gene's as Scientists have done, that is go further then just the 5 different races everybody spawned off from the continents, I will find we all came from one man and one women, who knows how they ended up there but that means we are all inbred it just depends on how far back you want to go. But we dont like to acknowledge it like that do we? Same then that Maori like to acknowledge our heritage which started from Hawaiki us being Tangata Whenua.

Also how can I take pride and learn in what I dont know, what is not classified or similar as Maori culture and language - that is Taiwanese culture and language, since we came from them.

I do respect my Scottish heritage I know where my Scottish fam came from and what village.
Difference is, Maori is mostly mentioned on here mainly because people on KB blame the Maori for being the most drag down to the country and its economy - wrong, we are products of Europeans, its like wbks mother calling him a 'son of a bitch'.

You're products of yourselves, and what "5 races" are you refering to? Last count there were a few more than that...
I've forgotten what your actual point was...

[Dean]

You're products of yourselves, and what "5 races" are you refering to? Last count there were a few more than that...
I've forgotten what your actual point was...

If your mother called you a 'son of a bitch' wouldnt you find that a bit hilarious.

Mongoloids ( Asians)
Negroids (African)
and the rest I cant remember.

[wbks]

If your mother called you a 'son of a bitch' wouldnt you find that a bit hilarious.

Mongoloids ( Asians)
Negroids (African)
and the rest I cant remember.

What? I guess so, but what does that have to do with anything? Those are races, but most people talk race more specifically as ethnic groups, and you're talking about Maori, so I figured you were talking about Maori "race".

[Pixie]

Hone wants to change the spelling to "White Hangy Day"

[Dean]

Bottom line.

There's no such thing as a 'Maori' people they are extinct! Maybe its the Moa getting back at us! lol

If you can miraculously provide me a source that can prove there is a full blooded Maori please do.

Stupid people blame Maori for un-employment, theft, etc

When they should be blaming fellow Europeans

If Maori were full blooded then it would be valid to divide us into groups of the most unemployed etc and conclude on solid evidence that Maori breed baddies.

[wbks]

Bottom line.

There's no such thing as a 'Maori' people they are extinct! Maybe its the Moa getting back at us! lol

If you can miraculously provide me a source that can prove there is a full blooded Maori please do.

Stupid people blame Maori for un-employment, theft, etc



If Maori were full blooded then it would be valid to divide us into groups of the most unemployed etc and conclude on solid evidence that Maori breed baddies.

Funny that, you and most "maori" are addiment that y'all are Maori when it comes to culture and being held above other NZers in certain ways.

[Dean]

Now you're just being stupid.

Maori culture still exists and always will, just because the people go extinct doesent mean the culture can go without acknowledgement or rememberance.

I may not be Maori, but I do have enough respect and decency for my far traced back Ancestors who lived the real Maori life to uphold them in mana (pride).

[wbks]

Now you're just being stupid.

Maori culture still exists and always will, just because the people go extinct doesent mean the culture can go without acknowledgement or rememberance.

I may not be Maori, but I do have enough respect and decency for my far traced back Ancestors who lived the real Maori life to uphold them in mana (pride).

I'm being stupid? I'm not the one saying that there is some sort of criminal gene that white cunts infested maori offspring with, thereby making them criminals, which is what you're saying. Someone who couldn't graduate last year of highschool, probably never even did highschool biology, trying to make judgments on complex genetics. But I'll humor you... Why aren't jails absolutely ridden with white people, if they are the root of all evil like you claim they are? And don't deny it, you're saying it in less words all the time