You may be right
This has been discussed before
You may be right
This has been discussed before
Originally Posted by Mully
You can't save the fallen, direct the lost or motivate the lazy.
You may be right
This has been discussed before
Originally Posted by Mully
You can't save the fallen, direct the lost or motivate the lazy.
Haha you're the only one that has replied to that question so at least you're an honest liar of a saint eh! Never broken the law on an ST1300 indeed lol. Crikey you'll be going for coffee in Kaikoura next.
Me, I'm neither a hypocrite nor a saint hence I won't criticise carver for giving it a go, nor do I speak for or against those that have stuffed up. What would this thread have looked like if carver had stuffed up?
Cheers
Merv
Readers might want to spare a thought to the real risk undertaken by 'lawfull' motorcycling pursuits.
The infamous coro loop:
Track racing:
- Rider vs car resulting in death.
- Rider vs rider resulting in multiple fatality.
- Rider losing control in a bend ending in death.
- Endless accidents resulting in severe injury.
- High risk of further accidents involving innocent motorists and bystanders.
- High motorcycle participation rate.
Riding over bridge ramparts:
- Rider vs rider resulting in death.
- Rider losing control resulting in death.
- High risk of injury everytime rider takes to the track.
- High motorcycle participation rate.
The likelihood of another individual riding over bridge ramparts on that bridge or any other is self regulating. With the exception of the insane, delusional or suicidal rider the possibility of this becoming a common event are infinitesimally small. Carver planned for the event for some time, trained and had specialised skills in order to pull the stunt off.
- No reported deaths
- No reported injury
- Exceedingly small participation rate
Coro GP and motorcycling are another story: any twat can turn up and scare themselves and others witless [and frequently do!]. Many have died and many will continue to do so. In comparison to the bridge stunt: both racing and the coro loop should be shut down immediately.
SPB if you want to be in the Moron few than just ask.
I was going to wrie lot of other stuff but cant be bothered, but you method of justification for the bridge stunt is a tad silly
Ive run out of fucks to give
What an interesting piece of "logic".
This could be used to justify a whole lot of felony behaviour.
"I know I was doing 100mph on Victoria Street, Your Honour - but I'm highly skilled and I trained for it".
"My wheelie across the Harbour Bridge, two up, on the wrong side of the road...? I'm highly skilled and I trained for it"
The problem with this argument is:
- The fact is that we only have Carvers word that he is highly skilled.
- Most of the accident victims on the Coro Loop would have considered themselves to be highly skilled.
- All of the riders crashing in Motorcycling racing are highly skilled, but they still crashed.
I'll nip outside and see if I can find any more straws for SPB to clutch!
His problem is the Court's desire to establish a precedent of disincentive to others who may contemplate similar stunts.
So that some Goober after seeing the stunt done, but with less skill than Carver, doesn't plummet through an innocent's sunroof.
Regardless of skill, bravado and entertainment value - it is still an essentially stupid thing to do.
Personally - I was entertained by the whole thing - still am.
Errrr I saw NO ONE but carver in that vid.......While I agree with your sentiments towards people replicating the stunt, I think you may be simply trying to hammer someone rather than help them.
If you don't think Carver is doing the right thing - what are you doing to fix it?
Its very easy to simply label someone, but very hard to try and help them change what they do.
We were all young an dumb at one stage in our lives. Then something changes.
Caver needs that something to direct his skills to better use. That is all.
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Driving a motorcycle is a stupid thing to do full stop.
The purpose of the courts is to entertain a legal system, and not as many believe a justice system. They really could not care less about motorcyclists, the general public or Carver. They care about one thing. CONTROL.
I noticed not to many are willing to argue the risk assessment angle of coro/track versus Carvers stunt, in-spite of the carnage many have witnessed. Hypocrites.
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