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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    And 3... Number 3 is important
    look I,m way out of my depth on No 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedom-wedge View Post
    This is so right on that its scary, I dont think we have got over that shambles yet and many unfortunatley are clinging to the raft of the new lot, I,m sure time will show that agenda's are still the same, just different mechanisms are being employed. I suppose you would have to give the nats 9 years to compare, sadly I dont think it will take that long.
    And yet, despite the recession and being handed a country in terrible shape thanks to our incompetent previous government, confidence is heading up, more New Zealanders are staying here than are leaving and in general things appear to be on the up and up.

    Are the agendas really the same or is that simply the last gasps of a dying religion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    And yet, despite the recession and being handed a country in terrible shape thanks to our incompetent previous government, confidence is heading up, more New Zealanders are staying here than are leaving and in general things appear to be on the up and up.

    Are the agendas really the same or is that simply the last gasps of a dying religion?
    Correct.

    I am no fan of having New Zelands prime minister having the nick name "the smiling assassin", as it goes to show his self serving money grubbing attitude to working class stiffs.

    (we are expendable?)

    Yes, he is doing the same hatchet job on the country.

    But, let's face the facts, the world is in the financial shitter, and, some really hard decisions have to be made.

    One person who will be profiting from these "cuts", will indeed be Mr Key, and his family, and their friends, and their friends tennis partner, and his maid, and so on, but that is the reality of it.

    Just like the USA that Obama inherited (not drawing comparisons here), Mr Key can neither be blamed for the state it is in, nor attacked for the policies he is having to make "for the good of the country"

    If the country was in better shape, YES, they would still be making self serving legislation (you may well find one of Key's international business mates sets up a health insurance company after they vote to privatise ACC........ don't be surprised), but, just at the moment there are several things that have to be done "for the good of the country", and National will be unpopular, as would Labour if they where at the helm when this all came about.

    Labour could, (and should) have taken steps to curb the out of control housing market, and that clearly would have lessened the blow of the global crisis, but, the majority of MP's are independently wealthy, and, by in large, that came about from residential property speculation...... why would they have pissed in their own pot, let alone their mates!

    Yes, this National government is going to continue to make legislation that increases their private wealth, don't doubt it for a second, but at the same time they are going to be making some legislation that won't pay off until later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS90 View Post
    One person who will be profiting from these "cuts", will indeed be Mr Key, and his family, and their friends, and their friends tennis partner, and his maid, and so on, but that is the reality of it.
    Along with the rest of NZ.

    It is easy to interpret measures by National to stem the headlong rush to bankruptcy Labour caused as self-serving. Reality is, somebody needs to stand up, take control and reign back the mentality of government pays for everything by taxing the fuck out of almost everyone. Those years of golden surpluses that were wasted are not here anymore. There will be hard hits. I don't consider this National government to be the same as the previous National government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    Along with the rest of NZ.

    It is easy to interpret measures by National to stem the headlong rush to bankruptcy Labour caused as self-serving. Reality is, somebody needs to stand up, take control and reign back the mentality of government pays for everything by taxing the fuck out of almost everyone. Those years of golden surpluses that were wasted are not here anymore. There will be hard hits. I don't consider this National government to be the same as the previous National government.
    They also need to reign in the years of social engineering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    more New Zealanders are staying here than are leaving ?
    Thats because we can't afford the departure tax

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
    Thats because we can't afford the departure tax
    No, departure tax has been removed, well, it has form Auckland airport anyway.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    Along with the rest of NZ.

    . There will be hard hits. I don't consider this National government to be the same as the previous National government.
    No - they are worse, and stupider!
    Looking forward to the good times of the 80's and 90's, eh, decades that saw NZ slide down the gurgler...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Quando omni flunkus moritati
    Haha sounds good. The annoying this is if they try that people may not realise how little work they do
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Looking forward to the good times of the 80's and 90's, eh, decades that saw NZ slide down the gurgler...........
    Well, we have had 9 years of golden opportunity to improve and advance the nation. Unfortunately this period has been wasted, money thrown away on utter rubbish, social engineering poisoning the country, and the future generations of the nation being left to carry the burden.
    No wonder this government has their work cut out for them.

    Let's look forward to a second term, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SS90 View Post
    No, departure tax has been removed, well, it has form Auckland airport anyway.....
    No, it's now included in the ticket price like every other airport and country in the world has done for like the last 10+ years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Looking forward to the good times of the 80's and 90's, eh, decades that saw NZ slide down the gurgler...........
    You're thinking of the 1990's benefit cuts under National?

    When they saved the country from a $5,000,000,000 deficit, left to them by the previous Labour government? You know - a whopping 19% of Crown Income at the time. It's thanks to the tough calls they had to make then as NOW that the Labour party had a decade of surpluses to waste away.

    History repeating itself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    Its my bet that Labour and the Greens won't be bashing the table demanding an investigation of credit card usage by M.Ps, and their electorate staff.

    You would have to be amazingly naive to assume that this particular rort was only just invented....
    Surely you are not accusing "Skyryder" of "selectively" highlighting political rorting by non Liabour politicians?

    That would be like suggesting he suffers from some closet political "bias"! Shame on you!

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