March Hare Rally (5-7 March 2010)

[Spuds1234]

& then just next door we have, over here long wheely ,can't hack it, you get it, it's to far to bend

I thought I avoided being in any photos this rally then Shrek ruins things.

Man it was hot work on Sunday morning packing up that tent.

[T.W.R]

Guess I can see where you are coming from, and those who did get caught were undoubtedly stupid, it really would have been nice to see no bikers and a few cages caught, it would have been interesting to have a look at the figures of how many cars and trucks that passed through vs bikers that left the camp were tested.

when we left the site we turnd right out of the 30k zone into the 100k zone, approx 100mtrs later breath testing & no signage other than marker cones in the middle of road
the bosses can take a up the arse for that FU & if there had been an accindent....
thankfully there was not

while taking these shots two 4x4's & one car went through with out being tested

Everyone is in the same boat opinion-wise to the setup of the location of the checkpoint.........

but the majority have failed to read this:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1129676490

And almost everyone has short term memory loss to the fact that it was months ago that we were made aware of the fact that during this summer there was to be a campaign in the Canterbury region targeting Motorcyclists there's a thread here on KB about it & if my memory serves me right it started the same week the Magpie was held.
And realistically since then this is the first major event of its type in the region.... so put two & two together and realise it was bound to happen sooner or later. We were the target just like if the cops are doing truck COF/RoadUser/Log Book/ Loading checks they don't stop other vehicles they just target trucks.

[JMemonic]

We were the target just like if the cops are doing truck COF/RoadUser/Log Book/ Loading checks they don't stop other vehicles they just target trucks.

Different department CVIU do the whole truck thing for the most part, and if they were doing similar they would have checked rego's and WOF's. Thats something I was wondering why they didn't do if it was a serious look at motorcyclists.

Anyhow enough, I doubt anyone but those unconvinced by the whole situation even give a toss, and as there were no accidents, (more by luck than anything), there will be no interest by the media or general public.

I still would love to see the result it they did the same on a main road for the same numbers on a Sunday, or have the same policy around a large sporting event, could be interesting.

[_Shrek_]

Everyone is in the same boat opinion-wise to the setup of the location of the checkpoint.........

but the majority have failed to read this:

me being one, but i did know that they where targeting bikes though,

I did find out today why they would not breath test me before I went out,

some one did so at another time, that person then went back & drank more came out & got done for D.I.C, when it went to court it blew up in the face when the perp said to the Judge, that he got breath tested by the cops & they said he was ok, pc plod got the up the arse perp goes free his head off, now we copp it because of one
so best make sure we not over before we leave rallys

I still think the BB is a good thing, & you can enjoy the knowing that you're clear

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I have a small breath tester to use as an indication which helps you can also buy the crystal testers from the supermarket

http://jaycar.co.nz/productResults.asp?keywords=breath&keyform=KEYWORD&SUBMIT.x=23&SUBMIT.y=11

But you must remember: this product is intended to give an indicative reading only and is carries no guarantee of accuracy supplier accepts no responsibility for any consequence arising from the use of this device.

On saying that it hasn't let me down yet. Used it just before leaving March Hare and most other rallies...

[cruza]

Everyone is in the same boat opinion-wise to the setup of the location of the checkpoint.........

but the majority have failed to read this:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1129676490

And almost everyone has short term memory loss to the fact that it was months ago that we were made aware of the fact that during this summer there was to be a campaign in the Canterbury region targeting Motorcyclists there's a thread here on KB about it & if my memory serves me right it started the same week the Magpie was held.
And realistically since then this is the first major event of its type in the region.... so put two & two together and realise it was bound to happen sooner or later. We were the target just like if the cops are doing truck COF/RoadUser/Log Book/ Loading checks they don't stop other vehicles they just target trucks.

The other reason they probably did it at the gate is time limit they can hold you up without doing anything on the road. We get let go if there is a queue on the weighbridge or check point if they can't process us , think its 15 or 20 min .

[scumdog]

And realistically since then this is the first major event of its type in the region.... so put two & two together and realise it was bound to happen sooner or later. We were the target just like if the cops are doing truck COF/RoadUser/Log Book/ Loading checks they don't stop other vehicles they just target trucks.

The HOG rally seemed to not have been targetted in any way, it was only about 2 weeks earlier.


(Awaits onslought of rabid anti H-D comments....)

[scumdog]

I still would love to see the result it they did the same on a main road for the same numbers on a Sunday, or have the same policy around a large sporting event, could be interesting.

They do -and it is.

[Flip]

The HOG rally seemed to not have been targetted in any way, it was only about 2 weeks earlier.


(Awaits onslought of rabid anti H-D comments....)

Your average Hog member is older and more likely to be a Cop, Lawyer, Engineer or Accountant.

[scumdog]

Your average Hog member is older and more likely to be a Cop, Lawyer, Engineer or Accountant.

The cop organising the booze bus operation is not privy to that infi I suspect.

And they too drink - lots at times!.

[T.W.R]

The HOG rally seemed to not have been targetted in any way, it was only about 2 weeks earlier.


(Awaits onslought of rabid anti H-D comments....)

:slap: lol forgot about that.......though realistically it would have been a logistical nightmare undertaking the same operation processing that number of bikers in a suburban location

Imagine the bellows of distain that would have been flying if they had have done a B/B check point the crys of misjustice coming from the suits & wannabe outlaws would have been laughable

[cruza]

And then you'll get:

"what gives the pigs the right to come onto the rally site and expect people to blow into their gizmos....." kind of people making just that comment.

Or "I was in the Portaloo and missed out" waaa..

Or "I blew Failed Youth, woohoo, I'm under, I can have another drink"

Or "Test me, test me, I'm not riding but I just want to see if I'll pass"

Ad infinitum, ad neauseum......

Ummmmmmm, seem to have missed the point, I am fine with police having a checkpoint. but it was poorly placed poorly manned and poorly organised,

Your above comments would just be like usual day for ya--- water off a ducks back. If there was breath testing offered in site , I'd use it . and so would alot of others.

[Ghost_Bullet]

Ummmmmmm, seem to have missed the point, I am fine with police having a checkpoint. but it was poorly placed poorly manned and poorly organised,
Your above comments would just be like usual day for ya--- water off a ducks back. If there was breath testing offered in site , I'd use it . and so would alot of others.

Aggree To be honest I like the rally organisers idea, and as has been done for the brass, they buy testers that patrons of the rally can use. They have not had BB around the Brass for a few years now?

There was talk in previous posts of why they could not do it onsite,but then if they did it onsite, then you would have the public outcry that cops are looking after bikers.
If they did it once or more, then would there be an expectation that they will do it again and again and each event??
"come here big boy-blow into this... whoa, you a bit over... go sleep it off" I bet they wont do that out side my house on Sunday morning.
There has to be a level of personal responsibilty for yourself.
Look at how many fello bikers have come to greif or fatality over the last couple of years, there own personal fault or not, I know it makes me cringe every time, "not another, and feeling for their extended familys.
It did not appear to flash of a setup with the BB at the Hare, but no doubt succeeded in raising awareness.
Sure was a litle painful idling down the drive at such a speed, Being on the grumbling griso sure lessened the pain.

[miSTa]

Ummmmmmm, seem to have missed the point, I am fine with police having a checkpoint. but it was poorly placed poorly manned and poorly organised...

Spot on. When GB and I rode through (10-15 minutes after you perhaps) there were only three cops on the road doing the testing. No wonder it took us 20-25 (maybe more) minutes to leave!

An interesting thought - if everyone had ridden straight through (i.e. as in doing a runner) I reckon there would have been nothing they Police could have done. There were no cops further up the road in Waimate or beyond (or at least we never saw any) and there were no Police cars in the immediate vicinity. Easy. The fact that nobody tried, as far as I know, is remarkable.

I think what buggered it up for the Police was having to cover the northern exit (behind the stage) as well, a distinct lack of forethought on their part.

[scumdog]

Aggree To be honest I like the rally organisers, and has been done for the brass, they buy testers that patrons of the rally can use. They have not had BB around the Brass for a few years now?

There was talk in previous posts of why they could not do it onsite,but then if they did it onsite, then you would have the public outcry that cops are looking after bikers.
If they did it once or more, then would there be an expectation that they will do it again and again and each event??
"come here big boy-blow into this... whoa, you a bit over... go sleep it off" I bet they wont do that out side my house on Sunday morning.
There has to be a level of personal responsibilty for yourself.
Look at how many fello bikers have come to greif or fatality over the last couple of years, there own personal fault or not, I know it makes me cringe every time, "not another, and feeling for their extended familys.
It did not appear to flash of a setup with the BB at the Hare, but no doubt succeeded in raising awareness.
Sure was a litle painful idling down the drive at such a speed, Being on the grumbling griso sure lessened the pain.

Ripper post Q. - well balanced - I like your style!!

I bet you get a different response to what I would have got had I posted that!