The Goat of Hampton Downs

[suzuki21]

Hey Nick, was F@^Ken funny when watching an interview of you on TV - Mikayla pointed at the TV and yelled out danger! Sorry to use you as the stranger danger example at Manfield, but I guess your wife wished for the same warning training a few years ago!

[quickbuck]

I was the 'poor bastard' mentioned by 2 others earlier in the thread, that got knocked off by Meads on his ZX6

Sorry to hear of this sort of behaviour mate.
In the words of Troy Corser, "Pay Back's a beach", or something like that
As Nick said, good thing you had top gear on.... Shame it happened at all though.... I know, even with the best gear, it still freaken hurts! Hope you heal up okay.

I know our (Team Air Force) 600 Rider got a few stern words spoken to him when he passed another race bike within 1.5m a few ride days back....
It was Race Bike on Race bike, and it actually looked pretty safe according to the marshal, but Darren wouldn't have any of it.... Fair enough, his train set...
I don't think Mr Mead will be welcome back....

Now, as for Mr Corsers comment.... well, actually, I prefer to believe in a thing called Karma.
A lot less of the lowering of standards involved.

Keep your chin up Scott.

[Deano]

Maybe we should get Sam Love to sort him out! Oh wait...

Hey I heard that there was a video of that incident on you tube - I did a search but couldn't find it - anyone ideas ?

I saw the crash but not the 'retribution'. IMO there was no way in a million years he was going to pull off that move on Sam - personally I'm glad I don't race in SS - I don't want to share the same piece of track with munters like that.

[Cracker]

I am with Scott, made me angry. " What happens on track, stays on track", "bad luck shit happens you buy saftey gear to protect you", is just naive woffle. Horseshit!

Fact is a fair swag of us have young children and business to run. Riding fast track days is our escape from that. A cock up like that has major leaque implications. I would have gone postal on the kids father too. I don't give a shit of the legal rights of an arsehole.

I arrived that day late and then failed the scrutineering for my track bike. Had to race home and get my slow road bike. Had the best track day for a long time, missed the breifing (2 meter rule) and engaged in some tight riding with riders on fast bikes riding good lines where they got me on the straight and I got them on the slow corners. Cheap thrills and we all had close action fun. Come back Scott.

[scracha]

I am with Scott, made me angry. " What happens on track, stays on track", "bad luck shit happens you buy saftey gear to protect you", is just naive woffle. Horseshit!.

Fuck....my bad. I forgot kiwi's don't do sarcasm. I thought the "smash him bro" comment would have been a good enough hint but obviously not.

[quickbuck]

Fuck....my bad. I forgot kiwi's don't do sarcasm. I thought the "smash him bro" comment would have been a good enough hint but obviously not.

It was that bloody accent that hid the sound of your tounge stuck in your cheek, again.

[Cracker]

"Smash him Bro"

Sheez mate, I'm 50 years old, that classey bullshit jargon doesn't mean anything to me.
Have a look at sport 20 years ago and our results were not built on that bullshit. Next track day is 29 th March, Kiwitrack Days reinvented, Good luck Steve.

[Biggles08]

Just to add a different slant to this thread, I was in the race where Bryce Meads crashed into Sam Love but unfortunately didn't see the actual incident. From all accounts Bryce fucked up in this case (And he doesn't seem to deny this)....Also, this last incident with you Scott, I was also on the track and had just overtaken you so once again never actually saw the incident so can't comment on what exactly happened (I think Bryce was keen to sit on my tail and hence was trying to stick to the back of me for that session).

However, of course Bryce had a completely different opinion than you as to what had happened rightly or wrongly. I agree with lots that has been said on this thread and can also understand how this sort of thing happens. Track days are a funny thing...we are there to go fast but not race....problem is, in a racers mind they may have actually slowed down and in their minds they are riding 'to the conditions' but to the road riders out there at the same time it may appear very different. Don't get me wrong, I'm in no way defending or condoning any bad riding that may have occurred, all I'm saying is I can see there is a different viewpoint from a racers perspective than a fast track day riders perspective. A similar thing happened to me when I was only riding track days...Paul Brown went around the outside of me in turn 7 at Taupo and hit the outside of my bike....I was VERY pissed off with him and went over and confronted him about it...he seemed to me to have an attitude exactly the way you have described how Bryce reacted to you...unconcerned. I was angry at him for some time after this event but now realize how it happened....it was no big deal to him as he was completely used to racing environments yet to me it was a massive deal! Because of this differing viewpoints, I seldom do any track days now as it is too dangerous mixing racers with road riders.

A couple of times I went to overtake some road riders on the track that day and they took a drastically different line to what I was expecting and I had to change my intentions very quickly in order to avoid breaking the 2m rule. The thing is, race lines are usually a lot different to road lines....wider entry's and later braking normally, this could go somewhat to explain what happened to you Scott...I understand Bryce came around the outside and closed the door on you? Anyway, I know for myself I give track day riders plenty of room while in the corner for my own sake....I have seen too many weird lines so I figure its in my own interest (not saying you were running any weird lines as I didn't see any of it)!

After the Sam Love incident Bryce seemed to slow down a bit and hence I started having some race battles with him through the remainder of the winter series. I had heard bad shit about him and his riding so was a little cautious at first. Eventually we were hammering it hard out on the track together, rubbing fairings and totally committed to beating each other....through all of this I was very pleasantly surprised at his skill level and I now feel very comfortable racing in the same patch of track with him...like I said, this is only my experience with him and obviously others such as yourself have had conflicting experiences with him. Touch wood I don't :-)

On another note to ponder, I wonder if Hampton Downs Track Days would consider having a class for Race License holders only this close to the National Round next year. Obviously there was going to be a lot of racers there testing bikes and practicing, it seems a logical solution for a temporary period around this time each year...just a thought.

Hope your body heals up quick Scott and remember I have a good Helmet for ya if your keen on a replacement ;-)

Cheers
Biggles

[Billy]

Absolutely on the money Marcus,Racers should never be on the track at the same time as roadriders and this is a classic example why.

As slow as I am now I still wont consider going out with any group other than race at a trackday,Roadriders fast or slow are horrendously indecisive and lack the basic knowledge involved with racing a bike.All trackday operators should be running RACE ONLY classes too avoid this sort of thing happening again

[raftn]

dont no wat points lead meads is leading in 600s but i no im leading da nz 600s. an in regards to your riding gear... bad luck shit happens you buy saftey gear to protect you an sounds like you had good gear which is good to hear but yes good gear cost alot i no! but what happen to you sucks but you cant go on a web site like this to wat seems like make yourself feel better bout yourself over what happen. cant change what happen so if were me i would move on

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[scott2ride]

Hey guys. Thanks for all the comments. Some I agree with and some I dont.

I didnt intend for this thread to be hijacked and end up about Meads knocking me off. So I apologize to 'TheCougar" for that (Come to think of it...the cougar is what we call my mates ex-wife )

Look I dont have any malice towards Bryce Meads and I certainly dont want to see or hear of him (or anyone else) getting hurt in an accident. But to suggest that a General Bikers forum isnt the place to discuss these sorts of things is also somewhat short sighted. Yep... I had my whinge about the guy who knocked me off. But the thread was started by the cougar as he got knocked off, then Gixerracer brought up that I was knocked off the same way last week. So I simply chimed in to say what happened.

I know Im not racing in the Nationals. But I have 2 friends who are. One is mid pack in the nationals on a 1000cc superbike and the other a mid-tail Pro Twins racer. Both of which generally speaking I keep up with on track and one I occasionally beat. So although I dont race Im not a novice either, and despite what Meads may say to lay blame, I wasnt off line in the slightest or running wide. Hell... we wern't even at a serious pace at this point. Meads just decided to slam dunk us and swoop in to show he was a riding God. Well I'll give him a +1 for not coming off after he hit me, but a -2 for taking me out with a reckless move.

Biggles I do recall you passed us towards the end of the front straight, but your's wasnt a dodgy move. Sam Love & Scott Healey were behind me at this point (also taking it easy). But I also recall you not being surprised at all that Meads had knocked me off and mentioned I want the first o have Meads do this to.

It's a shame Meads has sponsors to pay for his shit, as maybe without them he'd take more care and show more respect to others out on a track day. I did nothing wrong, was in the right place on the track and held my line. But now Im up for $6-7000 and he didnt even have the courtesy to say "Sorry mate, I hope you are ok. I'm sorry I knocked you off."

Kama does have a way of creeping up on people with attitudes like that. But I do hope its not in the way of a bad fall next time as he deserves a kick up the ass, not a busted back.

And any of you who dont think I have any reason to vent, then feel free to step into my shoes and limp around for the next few weeks, and reach into your wallet for $7000 and see how much that hurts when it was a completely unnecessary cost!

[CHOPPA]

Sounds like Meads has a pretty good rep, if i were racing him it would make me think twice about passing....

[Shaun]

Sounds like Meads has a pretty good rep, if i were racing him it would make me think twice about passing....

I would T BONE him to show him how it feals. He rides and acts like a wanker, so deserves treating like one



Perhaps honesty is not the best thing on the internet eh

[CHOPPA]

Hey guys. Thanks for all the comments. Some I agree with and some I dont.

I didnt intend for this thread to be hijacked and end up about Meads knocking me off. So I apologize to 'TheCougar" for that (Come to think of it...the cougar is what we call my mates ex-wife )

Look I dont have any malice towards Bryce Meads and I certainly dont want to see or hear of him (or anyone else) getting hurt in an accident. But to suggest that a General Bikers forum isnt the place to discuss these sorts of things is also somewhat short sighted. Yep... I had my whinge about the guy who knocked me off. But the thread was started by the cougar as he got knocked off, then Gixerracer brought up that I was knocked off the same way last week. So I simply chimed in to say what happened.

I know Im not racing in the Nationals. But I have 2 friends who are. One is mid pack in the nationals on a 1000cc superbike and the other a mid-tail Pro Twins racer. Both of which generally speaking I keep up with on track and one I occasionally beat. So although I dont race Im not a novice either, and despite what Meads may say to lay blame, I wasnt off line in the slightest or running wide. Hell... we wern't even at a serious pace at this point. Meads just decided to slam dunk us and swoop in to show he was a riding God. Well I'll give him a +1 for not coming off after he hit me, but a -2 for taking me out with a reckless move.

Biggles I do recall you passed us towards the end of the front straight, but your's wasnt a dodgy move. Sam Love & Scott Healey were behind me at this point (also taking it easy). But I also recall you not being surprised at all that Meads had knocked me off and mentioned I want the first o have Meads do this to.

It's a shame Meads has sponsors to pay for his shit, as maybe without them he'd take more care and show more respect to others out on a track day. I did nothing wrong, was in the right place on the track and held my line. But now Im up for $6-7000 and he didnt even have the courtesy to say "Sorry mate, I hope you are ok. I'm sorry I knocked you off."

Kama does have a way of creeping up on people with attitudes like that. But I do hope its not in the way of a bad fall next time as he deserves a kick up the ass, not a busted back.

And any of you who dont think I have any reason to vent, then feel free to step into my shoes and limp around for the next few weeks, and reach into your wallet for $7000 and see how much that hurts when it was a completely unnecessary cost!

Ill give you 6k for a trade form your bike, 7k the difference and you can have an Ex Factory Racebike....

[sharky]

Absolutely on the money Marcus,Racers should never be on the track at the same time as roadriders and this is a classic example why.

As slow as I am now I still wont consider going out with any group other than race at a trackday,Roadriders fast or slow are horrendously indecisive and lack the basic knowledge involved with racing a bike.All trackday operators should be running RACE ONLY classes too avoid this sort of thing happening again

Just like the trackday on the Saturday before the 3rd round of PMCC eh.....