ATGATT. Why? It doesn't affect anyone else?

[Jonno.]

I agree all riders should wear proper gear while riding
in Australia they pay less ACC if you do not have proper gear because you have contributed to the accident.

So do you think they should pay you less then if you were driving a car?

[LBD]

Affect others...to bloody right it does...I just posted a lecture to a young lass being told of by a copper for the same thing....As a dad of a beautiful bike riding daughter...who I introduced to riding...If she was to be perminantly marred as a result of an accident ....her mother and I would be devistated....and so much more so if it could have been prevented by wearing appropriate gear

[MSTRS:Me]

So do you think they should pay you less then if you were driving a car?

We've had this discussion in one of the ACC threads. Whilst it is a valid point (if you don't take reasonable steps to protect yourself, why should you enjoy the full whack of support?) - we also accept that it isn't likely to happen here.
One interesting point that I don't recall seeing...does the attitude that goes with not gearing up, spill over into attitude towards riding?

[Edbear]

We've had this discussion in one of the ACC threads. Whilst it is a valid point (if you don't take reasonable steps to protect yourself, why should you enjoy the full whack of support?) - we also accept that it isn't likely to happen here.
One interesting point that I don't recall seeing...does the attitude that goes with not gearing up, spill over into attitude towards riding?

Interesting question. Probably age related to a large degree.

[wickle]

Just to update you about the NOBB who's off started this thread, I was told today that on Sayurday nite after being patched up at hospital "he walked out" not discharged or anything like that they whated him to stay in over nite, just shows "somepeople can't be helped"

[MSTRS:Me]

Gah!
And if, medically, something in his condition turns bad...he will still get covered.

[yungatart]

He was pretty determined to walk home from the accident site, I spent the whole time telling him to stay where he was....

[RDjase]

He was pretty determined to walk home from the accident site, I spent the whole time telling him to stay where he was....

he kept trying to get up..................till it hurt to much, and not knowing what day it was and where napier was may have hindered his chances of"Walking Home"

We should have left the dick there and gone to the classic club as we had planed !

[yungatart]

Ah well, you do what you can, eh?
Like my ma used to say,"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"

[caseye]

Ah ,Go on with ya RDJase, you guys could no more walk past a wounded sparrow than leave someone lying in the gutter after an off.
Gear no gear, that wouldn't ever come into it.
But, the question this OP's first post posed about attitude now becomes even more relavant.
Attitude, can it be changed, should we even bother having the discussion?

[RDjase]

Ah well, you do what you can, eh?
Like my ma used to say,"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"

Maybe he wanted out from the hospital before they sucked blood and checked for alcohol(couldnt smell any on him) and drugs

[Dooly]

Who was the guy?

He must of been behind me as I left with Dieseldick and you guys we'rent quite out of the pub then.
Was he one of the guys in the Tiko?

[RDjase]

Ah ,Go on with ya RDJase, you guys could no more walk past a wounded sparrow than leave someone lying in the gutter after an off.
Gear no gear, that wouldn't ever come into it.
But, the question this OP's first post posed about attitude now becomes even more relavant.
Attitude, can it be changed, should we even bother having the discussion?

Super Vinyl Jacket Guy has know idea how famous he is

[RDjase]

Who was the guy?

He must of been behind me as I left with Dieseldick and you guys we'rent quite out of the pub then.
Was he one of the guys in the Tiko?

no , he came from ypawa end, Dark green/black? ZX6r

[yungatart]

Maybe he wanted out from the hospital before they sucked blood and checked for alcohol(couldnt smell any on him) and drugs

According to yesterdays paper, he was unsuccessful in that.

Who was the guy?

He must of been behind me as I left with Dieseldick and you guys we'rent quite out of the pub then.
Was he one of the guys in the Tiko?

He was coming from Waipawa, but lives in Napier. He's a real clever dude, and an amzingly fast rider...pity he couldn't corner as well as he can go in a straight line....