Looking for a top IT role in Auckland?

[scracha]

It aint the money, Tank

We just dont want to be Dorklanders

Asides from the pay-cut, it sounds like it involves wearing a suit and getting up before 8am too.

[jonbuoy]

Now here is a kicker - I dont want a IT nerd - This person has to be management friendly - be able to represent IT as a 'go to' business line.

Maybe if you explained what the hell a "go to" business line was people might reply. Do they have to be fluent in corporate bullshit trendy tag lines?

Non corporate types please refer to:

http://www.corporatetrash.com/vomitList.cfm

[scracha]

Maybe if you explained what the hell a "go to" business line was people might reply.

Person the boss 'goes to' to get the pron off his laptop silly.

Seriously, good of Tank thinking about the multitude of KB geeks and were it not for the gurlie's horsey lifestyle out in the wop wops then I'd have put my hand up for it.

[Tank]

Maybe if you explained what the hell a "go to" business line was people might reply. Do they have to be fluent in corporate bullshit trendy tag lines?

Non corporate types please refer to:

http://www.corporatetrash.com/vomitList.cfm

If you have to ask - then you probably arn't smart enough for the job.

Posted on Seek - received plenty of replies, so Im guessing its just you. I was just trying to do a solid for some of the IT guys on here.

[Mully]

Posted on Seek - received plenty of replies, so Im guessing its just you. I was just trying to do a solid for some of the IT guys on here.

Gotta link (or a reference number)? Guy I know wanted more info before he contacted you

[avgas]

I am not really looking Tank, but I know where you coming from.
The lack of combination between skills is a killer with some people. I have been in IT/Engineering for about 5 years. It was only by chance that I took a management/relationship role with one of my previous employers. He took a gamble with me as he saw some natural instinct.
Now I am completing my MBA and finding I am near the top of my class - only because the room is full of morons and (I am not being racist here just stating facts) fresh immigrants. People seem to think that being a team leader at a call centre is management......its not. You have to have a broad range of skills to deal with different levels.
Likewise DITTO to all IT members who turn up to work in running shoes and t-shirt. How the hell are you going to be respected by management if you look like you spent all of last night playing WoW.

[mashman]

Likewise DITTO to all IT members who turn up to work in running shoes and t-shirt. How the hell are you going to be respected by management if you look like you spent all of last night playing WoW.

Heh, I resemble that remark... only last week the boss was stunned to see me looking respectable ... but as you point out, it's all how THEY look at YOU, not what you're actually capable of. Just because people how they feel "comfortable", shouldn't detract from their abilities... It's an utterly incorrect assumption to make... yet the business world expect it????

[Slyer]

Nobody in my IT company dresses up unless we are seeing clients. Even boss wears Jandals...

[avgas]

Heh, I resemble that remark... only last week the boss was stunned to see me looking respectable ... but as you point out, it's all how THEY look at YOU, not what you're actually capable of. Just because people how they feel "comfortable", shouldn't detract from their abilities... It's an utterly incorrect assumption to make... yet the business world expect it????

Yep perception is a mother fucker.
But alas if you know how to manipulate it a bit - certainly would be worth using to your advantage.
I found that coming to work in dress pants, dress shirt and dress shoes meant I could save 2 hours of my day. Those 2 hours were usually killed trying to 'convince' management I knew what I was talking about.

[avgas]

Nobody in my IT company dresses up unless we are seeing clients. Even boss wears Jandals...

Do you think that possibly salaries are set at the same levels???

[Slyer]

Well my boss owns the company he can do what he likes.

[Tank]

Heh, I resemble that remark... only last week the boss was stunned to see me looking respectable ... but as you point out, it's all how THEY look at YOU, not what you're actually capable of. Just because people how they feel "comfortable", shouldn't detract from their abilities... It's an utterly incorrect assumption to make... yet the business world expect it????

Its more that generally that the 'nerds' dont know when t-shirts are OK and when they are not. At work we are 100% t-shirts, jeans / shorts. Unless we have a client coming in (couple of time a year) - then we are suits / ties. Sadly many IT people dont understand when its just not appropriate.

[EJK]

Do you think that possibly salaries are set at the same levels???

Some shirts are cheaper than two packs of ciggaretts but hey, lets not debate ;-)

[mashman]

Yep perception is a mother fucker.
But alas if you know how to manipulate it a bit - certainly would be worth using to your advantage.
I found that coming to work in dress pants, dress shirt and dress shoes meant I could save 2 hours of my day. Those 2 hours were usually killed trying to 'convince' management I knew what I was talking about.

heh, that's probably because they're critiquing your choice of clothing for the day and really not listening to you...

Its more that generally that the 'nerds' dont know when t-shirts are OK and when they are not. At work we are 100% t-shirts, jeans / shorts. Unless we have a client coming in (couple of time a year) - then we are suits / ties. Sadly many IT people dont understand when its just not appropriate.

That sounds like the usual... but you forgot about being on site UGH... Sadly most management can't get past the clothing that the person in front of them is wearing... as if that actually has any bearing AT ALL in regards to the capabilities of the provider... if that's the case i'd say everyone should dress in t's etc... (as those wearing the suits seem keep fucking things up ...) First impressions count my arse... just because you dress smart and think that you are smart, doesn't mean that that is actually the case and if people are fooled by that fact, just because someone is wearing a suit, then they're out of their minds

[TerminalAddict]

Shame it is Auckland based ... can the commute be negotiated ?

Two days in Dorkland per week perhaps?

and giz the seek reference number etc please

edit: on the subject of dress code in the IT industry.
Here is me today: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...equila-Tuesday
But I'm half way thru an MBA, and own a suit or two .. time and place I guess