H-D servicing?

[nico]

just a question to all the harley guys , so a mate say's to me how he's paying extravgaint prices for a simple oil change. i tell him it shouldnt be a big thing since ive got the room and nesecary tools easy to do i think?,

so question to any one who knows is there any thing apart from using corect oil and filter that i should know i mean i service my honda every 5 thou never had an issue.

and can the corect grade of oil be perchaced fom super cheep? or do ya gota get it from a h,d dealer??

thanks in advance.

[JimO]

you need special HD oil it has a wallet on a chain and tassels

[Taz]

Look here Nico

http://www.hdtalking.com/oil_related_tips/

[Wefaknis]

great idea Anthrax.... :-)

[nico]

you need special HD oil it has a wallet on a chain and tassels

clasic ....................

[hmmmnz]

hd are remarkably simple bikes, the only difference between them and a sports bike (avoiding the obvious ) is that they generally are dry sump engines.. like loads of dirt bikes, (and they have seperate gear boxes)
so not only do you have to drain the sump of oil, you also have to drain the oil tank, its hard to get a complete change, because there is always a little bit of oil left in the system,,
basically drain the sump and tank, put a litre in the tank, run the bike for 10-20 seconds, drain the sump and tank again, and refill the tank,
run for another 20seconds and check the tank level.
the gear box is like on a 2 stroke, just drain and refill,

[R1madness]

They are easy to do but make sure you use an oil specified for roller bearings not plain metal bearings.
Spectro Heavy Duty 20/50 is a spacific HD oil. i recommend that. They also make Gearbox and primary spacific oils. If you are stuck for oil use a DIESEL OIL for TOP UPS in your HD. Diesel oils are made to withstand much higher pressures (on the big end bearings due to high compression) which are needed with a roller bearing. There is less surface area on a roller bearing than a plain metal bearing hence the higher point to point load.

[R1madness]

hd are remarkably simple bikes, the only difference between them and a sports bike (avoiding the obvious ) is that they generally are dry sump engines.. like loads of dirt bikes, (and they have seperate gear boxes)
so not only do you have to drain the sump of oil, you also have to drain the oil tank, its hard to get a complete change, because there is always a little bit of oil left in the system,,
basically drain the sump and tank, put a litre in the tank, run the bike for 10-20 seconds, drain the sump and tank again, and refill the tank,
run for another 20seconds and check the tank level.
the gear box is like on a 2 stroke, just drain and refill,

A harley engine inside is so different from a sports bike it funny. Plain bearings vrs roller bearings is just the start...
UMmmm if its dry sump it does not have a sump bung..... Some late model harleys (dyna) have a oil tank that looks like its part of the engine but they are still dry sump.
Also you forgot to mention the primary oil. its seperate to the gearbox as well on most older (per 2002 hogs). It needs drained and refilled (to the bottom of the clutch hub usually). Takes just under 950mls.
Its funny that so many people think HDs are simple but when you get deeper into them they are quite specialised and need a good understanding of them to get the best from them.

[paulmac:Me]

engine is fine with 20-50 bike oil but use spectro primary oil. Prevents clutch slippage.

[The Pink Panther]

Compressor oil change ?

[doc]

I've used Moblil 1 and sportrans for 80k in mine never had a prob with bearing skate. Change both every 5k. They are so simple very little to maintain, other than oil changes. Never been back to the shop since new.

[Crasherfromwayback]

hd are remarkably simple bikes, the only difference between them and a sports bike (avoiding the obvious ) is that they generally are dry sump engines.. like loads of dirt bikes, (and they have seperate gear boxes)
so not only do you have to drain the sump of oil, you also have to drain the oil tank, its hard to get a complete change, because there is always a little bit of oil left in the system,,
basically drain the sump and tank, put a litre in the tank, run the bike for 10-20 seconds, drain the sump and tank again, and refill the tank,
run for another 20seconds and check the tank level.
the gear box is like on a 2 stroke, just drain and refill,

They're all dry sump engines. All you have to do is let the thing slow idle for a few minutes to let the scavenger pump do it's thing, and return all of the oil residue that's in the cases back to the tank and you're good to go (drain).

They are easy to do but make sure you use an oil specified for roller bearings not plain metal bearings.
Spectro Heavy Duty 20/50 is a spacific HD oil. i recommend that. They also make Gearbox and primary spacific oils. If you are stuck for oil use a DIESEL OIL for TOP UPS in your HD. Diesel oils are made to withstand much higher pressures (on the big end bearings due to high compression) which are needed with a roller bearing. There is less surface area on a roller bearing than a plain metal bearing hence the higher point to point load.

Roller bearings are tough as hell, as a sphere is the greatest shape known to mankind for dispersing a load. They don't need any fancy oil, just one that's not too slimey, so (as has been said) the rollers don't skid.

[Owl]

They're all dry sump engines.

Mine wasn't!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mine wasn't!

Maybe not...but these guys weren't referring to the V-rod family.

[scumdog]

I've used Moblil 1 and sportrans for 80k in mine never had a prob with bearing skate. Change both every 5k. They are so simple very little to maintain, other than oil changes. Never been back to the shop since new.

You mean to say there are 'bikes out there that require MORE than an oil/filter change as part of there periodic maintenance!???