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    I am a parent, therefore I am

    For fucks sake. This makes my blood boil. I don't mind chipping in more than my fair share to pay for their schools, healthcare, parents maternity leave, working for families, etc, etc, etc, etc, but now the baby makers want to cut my pension because I've not "bred"? WtF?

    Natalie Jackson is a first class idiot and if that's the sort of intellect a professor at Waikato University displays then it's no wonder the place is a laughing stock.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/n...0640849&pnum=2

    A population professor has come up with a novel idea to cope with New Zealand's ageing population - pay a higher pension to those who have children.

    Professor Natalie Jackson, the new director of Waikato University's Population Studies Centre, says the welfare state is "a great pyramid scheme" based on a pyramid-shaped population with only a few old people at the top supported by growing numbers of young people at the bottom.

    "Just like a pyramid scheme, you have to have a continuous supply of new people coming in to support the numbers of old people," she said yesterday.

    "Once you add in falling fertility since the 1960s, the age structure tips upside down ... so eventually the welfare state will have to change dramatically."

    She said society would have to give more priority to children to maximise their contribution to the labour force and hence to the tax base that pays for pensions. And it would have to look at linking pensions to producing children.

    "The welfare state has to change, and one of the potential things we might look at is limiting pensions to those who have had children," she said.

    Professor Jackson, a New Zealander, has had a distinguished career as an expert on ageing in Australia for the past 15 years, including a term as president of the Australian Population Association.

    With three children and four grandchildren all living in New Zealand, she would benefit personally from the scheme she proposes.

    But she acknowledged that other policies aimed at increasing thebirth rate, such as Australia's A$5000 "baby bonus", had had only a limited effect.

    "There is some evidence it's had a minor impact but only in terms of the fertility ratio," she said.

    "That can go up because people have their second child maybe a little bit faster than they would have.

    "There has been a small increase in teenage pregnancy. That was one of the unintended consequences."

    But she said linking pensions to having children was not about enticing people to have children.

    "The point of it is that there are not going to be enough young people in the workforce generating income that we need to support the welfare state that we have at the moment ... and, by restricting the drawoff to those who have provided the kids who will provide the taxes, that reduces the demand on the welfare state," she said.

    She said society benefited from children through the taxes they would pay in the future, yet parents bore most of the cost of raising them.

    "Some people may have wanted them and can't have them and that's a sad situation," she said.

    "But those who haven't had children, whether by chance or for any of a multitude of other reasons, have had the opportunity to save for their old age. It's not an option to go on the way we are."

    However, the co-director of Auckland University's Retirement Policy and Research Centre, Dr Susan St John, said linking pensions to having children "doesn't bear thinking about".

    "How do men get their pensions? Surely not more based on the number of women they happen to impregnate?"



    WTF is a "population professor" anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    "The welfare state has to change,
    Agreed.

    With three children and four grandchildren all living in New Zealand, she would benefit personally from the scheme she proposes.
    Entirely unrelated, of course.

    She said society benefited from children through the taxes they would pay in the future, yet parents bore most of the cost of raising them.
    I wonder what colour the sky is in her world.

    "Some people may have wanted them and can't have them and that's a sad situation," she said.
    As opposed to the mouth-breathers who keep popping them out with impunity


    "How do men get their pensions? Surely not more based on the number of women they happen to impregnate?"
    Awesome. "Honey, it wasn't an affair. I was providing for our future....."
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    Jrandom, You are such a woman hating cunt, if you weren't such a misogynist bastard you might have a better luck with women!

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    That will teach you for wasting your love juice down the drain/loo/couch/someones face/backseat of a car/bikeshed/etc etc

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    In Tahiti you get a $100 family benefit a week for each kid, so everyone has 5 kids.

    Its a good way to encourage breeding
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    Awesome. "Honey, it wasn't an affair. I was providing for our future....."
    It's OK darling, I DIDN'T wear a condom.
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    theyd be very lucky to get this into law or whatever. i dont have kids... i dont want kids. nonetheless i find myself as a surrogate mother to my brothers kids after their "birther" vanished over easter weekend. she will have 6 kids by the end of this year, with 4 different dads. she is not a mother, she is a breeder, popping kids out left, right and centre, and the govt keeps paying for them. if she gets a higher pension that me just cos shes too thick to get fixed, then thats just fucked up.

    i figure theres enough kids in this world without me adding to it, nevermind the fact i would be a horrid mother. my bike and my cats are my life... kids are not.
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    It's not exactly a "novel" way of dealing with the problem. The USSR ans most other communist countries had this in place. I guess it's easier than running a place where people actually want to breed.
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    waaaaa ha ha ha... I find a child being referred to as a "resource" somewhat disturbing...
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    waaaaa ha ha ha... I find a child being referred to as a "resource" somewhat disturbing...
    I wish my kids would stop slacking and get a job! Nappies are no excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Easy on those meds Ed!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    waaaaa ha ha ha... I find a child being referred to as a "resource" somewhat disturbing...
    and how do you feel about genetically engineered children? There's some right sick fuk's out there with some totalling absurd ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie View Post
    and how do you feel about genetically engineered children? There's some right sick fuk's out there with some totalling absurd ideas.
    I'm fine with genetically engineered kids as long as it's for health benefit (stem cell research included)... but that's another topic lol... having said that they have just cloned the tumor sniffing dog... who's to say that they won't clone Key as he has a good nose for money
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    Easy on those meds Ed!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    ... pay a higher pension to those who have children.
    Why? Are the children still living at home?

    Great idea. University brainbox in action, huh?
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