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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    Don't be do hipocritical matie...you hav a very slim veiw of what are facts and what your mate told you over a joint over the back fence!!

    People who earn more, pay more tax...It maybe hard for someone who's not very intelectual to understand...but its true....even with out our progressive taxation system that gets higher as you earn more. if it were a flat tax rate say 20%...and you earn 50k...You pay 10k pre year....Mr money bags earns 100k...he pays 20k a year...and yes...he does still have more money than you...why?? because he is most likey a better more productive person, smarter,probally better looking and will have a much larger penis....but besides all that...is it not clear that he pays more???
    the reason i don't think my leg is being pulled is because 1 of them is concerned about the changes to the LAQC eating into his "investment". but he does brew exceedingly good weed and has a very nice fence... you're right, i'm wrong, ugly, thick, unproductive and have a tiny penis that couldn't satisfy a gnat let alone a woman... luckily the postman is the opposite and gave me 4 lovely children. You're still assuming that everyone pays taxes that can afford to... I thought that tax cheats were a matter of public record? some even go to jail for it... maybe they got their facts wrong and imprisoned innocent people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    you hav a very slim veiw of what are facts and what your mate told you over a joint over the back fence!!
    I read back and see what i think youre referring to... i made a big faux... the limit i was talking about was 106,000 and it was the earners levy... humble pie etc... thanks for the seed of doubt...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    the reason i don't think my leg is being pulled is because 1 of them is concerned about the changes to the LAQC eating into his "investment". but he does brew exceedingly good weed and has a very nice fence... you're right, i'm wrong, ugly, thick, unproductive and have a tiny penis that couldn't satisfy a gnat let alone a woman... luckily the postman is the opposite and gave me 4 lovely children. You're still assuming that everyone pays taxes that can afford to... I thought that tax cheats were a matter of public record? some even go to jail for it... maybe they got their facts wrong and imprisoned innocent people.
    I'll agree that LAQC's are a issuse....but there won't be any other real examples when you can explain that someone won't pay thier way in tax, and then some, on a high income.
    I believe in a flat tax rate for workers,companys,trusts,whoever...it is the only way to make the work force more productive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    the reason i don't think my leg is being pulled is because 1 of them is concerned about the changes to the LAQC eating into his "investment". but he does brew exceedingly good weed and has a very nice fence... you're right, i'm wrong, ugly, thick, unproductive and have a tiny penis that couldn't satisfy a gnat let alone a woman... luckily the postman is the opposite and gave me 4 lovely children. You're still assuming that everyone pays taxes that can afford to... I thought that tax cheats were a matter of public record? some even go to jail for it... maybe they got their facts wrong and imprisoned innocent people.
    Oh, so you really mean that you want it to be illegal to evade tax, so that those people who evaded tax and went to jail, would end up getting sent to jail?

    These are the tax evaders you are so concerned about getting away with the Health dept's millions?
    Keep on chooglin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    I'll agree that LAQC's are a issuse....but there won't be any other real examples when you can explain that someone won't pay thier way in tax and then some on a high income.
    I believe in a flat tax rate for workers,companys,trusts,whoever...it is the only way to make the work force more productive.
    Other than writing off assets against a company that are for personal use... phones, cars, wages for the wife helping out (potentially legitimate write-offs, then again I guess it's how you use the system... as you point out, i ain't no expert) etc... I'm sure there are many more creative ways of doing it... I dunno about making them more productive, it may offer a level of "equity", but i think making them more productive would be a bit of a stretch... especially as they can dothe same job, for the same money and they just get less taken off them... if the figures support the usage of flat rate not diminishing the levels of government "service", then yeah, it's got to be 1 way forwards...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    Oh, so you really mean that you want it to be illegal to evade tax, so that those people who evaded tax and went to jail, would end up getting sent to jail?

    These are the tax evaders you are so concerned about getting away with the Health dept's millions?
    I thought it was illegal to evade tax? any dept millions... not necessarily going to jail, would just rather they just paid the taxes and kept on doing it to ease the burden on everyone else...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    but i think making them more productive would be a bit of a stretch... .
    Motivated people with a poor skill set, get killed by secondary tax....when they are trying to get ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    Motivated people with a poor skill set, get killed by secondary tax....when they are trying to get ahead.
    Tis a bloody shame... guess the "smart" people work for cash in hand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Tis a bloody shame... guess the "smart" people work for cash in hand?
    Their skills set is usually worth more...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    Their skills set is usually worth more...
    meh, perhaps... maybe that's the poor, misconceived, mindset of the "employer"... svings and roondabouts i guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    why?? because he is most likey a better more productive person, smarter,probally better looking and will have a much larger penis....
    On the basis of that analysis, Paul Reynolds' dick must stretch from his top floor office to halfway down the building at Hereford St...
    Why do you say a flat tax is the "only way to make the workforce more productive"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    meh, perhaps... maybe that's the poor, misconceived, mindset of the "employer"... svings and roondabouts i guess...

    let me guess you have never been one,

    i think paying 33% top rate is a good thing, i do not see why because you earn more you should pay a greater percentage of the tax take, i don;t think GST should ride either, but unfortuanlty we have a big deficit at the moment, and not many people will support cutting of key services like welfare, health or education to get the books to balance, luckerly most of the western world is worse off than we are in this,
    i also think the secondry tax should be capped at 33% as well,

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    I'll agree that LAQC's are a issuse....but there won't be any other real examples when you can explain that someone won't pay thier way in tax, and then some, on a high income.
    I believe in a flat tax rate for workers,companys,trusts,whoever...it is the only way to make the work force more productive.
    I don't know what an LAQC is but I know of a family business that pays the wife $20k of her husbands salary to reduce his tax burden.
    Oh, she works for it though - about an hour a week doing paperwork. They will be millionaires like the husbands father and his father before him that started the business.

    I'm not begrudging them for being successful, but the wife's salary is just a legal rort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    So if health gets more money on the 20th you'll vote national??? because labour had 9 years and achived nothing in that regard!
    No I dont think I will, but your right about labour

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    Support for a national oil company and drilling offshore like the big multinationals are now doing in the GSB could and would eventually turn us into another Norway if we did it well (no pun intended). We could have a transformed economy if we do it right and push for it.

    As for tax cuts.... from income tax to GST and little help in the middle with price rises sucking it up anyway.... woop dee do.

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