MNZ AGM, anyone got any news?

[gixerracer]

Will agree with you there for sure and theres more than a few people in this country capable of doing that

no there isnt

[gixerracer]

wot

Good on ya.

prove me wrong bob

[Crasherfromwayback]

Been round longer than that I raced both of them, U missed my point no one in recent times bruce been gone for more than 10 yrs and simon not much less tell me the last time someone in nz lapped a track faster ona gp250 than current f3 times you will be going along way back

Which is exactly MY point mate! The hot lap time on an F3 bike at Manfeild is what...1-11? Those times were beaten 10 years ago by GP bikes. Imagine what a decent GP jockey would do to those times now. When did you race Simon and Bruce...and what on? Either of them on a GP bike?

[gixerracer]

Which is exactly MY point mate! The hot lap time on an F3 bike at Manfeild is what...1-11? Those times were beaten 10 years ago by GP bikes. Imagine what a decent GP jockey would do to those times now. When did you race Simon and Bruce...and what on? Either of them on a GP bike?

My point is that we dont have any body even close to those guys level that would ride a 250gp bike in f3 any body that good will be racing at a higher level.
No body has been close to the times bruce done and as this class died a slow horrible death in NZ I doubt we will see any one do it soon.
I raced against bruce a few times but i never raced 250gp bikes I did follow him round manfeild a few times him on tz me on rgv so I didnt learn much from that.
Simon was never as good as he would like us all to beleive

[Sketchy_Racer]

Which is exactly MY point mate! The hot lap time on an F3 bike at Manfeild is what...1-11? Those times were beaten 10 years ago by GP bikes. Imagine what a decent GP jockey would do to those times now. When did you race Simon and Bruce...and what on? Either of them on a GP bike?

Manfeild F3 lap record was set in 2009 at a 1:12.0 and the fastest time I ever managed on a 250GP bike was 1:12.8 as a noob so it would be easily capable of doing 1:10s I would have thought on a "NZ spec" 250. Manfeild is not a track that is favorable for 250GP bikes, the difference would be even greater at other tracks. Does anyone know what the lap record was on a 250GP bike around Manfeild?

[Crasherfromwayback]

My point is that we dont have any body even close to those guys level that would ride a 250gp bike in f3 any body that good will be racing at a higher level.
No body has been close to the times bruce done and as this class died a slow horrible death in NZ I doubt we will see any one do it soon.
I raced against bruce a few times but i never raced 250gp bikes I did follow him round manfeild a few times him on tz me on rgv so I didnt learn much from that.
Simon was never as good as he would like us all to beleive

Can't agree with you on the last bit sorry. On the day (when he was on), Simon was every bit as fast as Bruce. It's just that Bruce was fast all the time.

Manfeild F3 lap record was set in 2009 at a 1:12.0 and the fastest time I ever managed on a 250GP bike was 1:12.8 as a noob so it would be easily capable of doing 1:10s I would have thought on a "NZ spec" 250. Manfeild is not a track that is favorable for 250GP bikes, the difference would be even greater at other tracks. Does anyone know what the lap record was on a 250GP bike around Manfeild?

Dunno mate...but I know they (they being one of the Aoki bros) did min 10's, maybe min 9's during the Pan Pacific series waaay back when!

Having done 16's on a 250 proddie bike there, and having (admittedly only a few times) raced an RS250, I certainly don't see it as being a problem to do 10's there. Christ...if a well tuned GP bike didn't make 2 secs on every one of Manfeilds straights over a 1991 KR1 I'd chew my own balls off.

[Ivan]

no there isnt

Hamish Laing,
He used to make that 250 fly.

Glen Skachill if he was to race one in F3 would win I am positive of it he is a extremly talented rider and learns bikes fast.

Shaun Harris I bet he could make one fly

Even yourself I bet you would be able to make one fly around the circuit

[Ivan]

Manfeild F3 lap record was set in 2009 at a 1:12.0 and the fastest time I ever managed on a 250GP bike was 1:12.8 as a noob so it would be easily capable of doing 1:10s I would have thought on a "NZ spec" 250. Manfeild is not a track that is favorable for 250GP bikes, the difference would be even greater at other tracks. Does anyone know what the lap record was on a 250GP bike around Manfeild?

And be it that the lap record was in summer when lap times are faster and you did that time in winter when the times are slower imagine what you could do in the middle of summer and I have no doubt in the way you rode that season that if you were racing in F3 those races you would have cleaned up

[Maido]

Been round longer than that I raced both of them, U missed my point no one in recent times bruce been gone for more than 10 yrs and simon not much less tell me the last time someone in nz lapped a track faster ona gp250 than current f3 times you will be going along way back

The last time I race a 250 round teretonga I did a 63 flat after not riding it for over a year, john was in the 2's on a regular basis on the TZ (that was in 2005) and I am not that flash! You would easily do a 61 round teretonga on a GP bike now.

[codgyoleracer]

My point is that we dont have any body even close to those guys level that would ride a 250gp bike in f3 any body that good will be racing at a higher level.
No body has been close to the times bruce done and as this class died a slow horrible death in NZ I doubt we will see any one do it soon.
I raced against bruce a few times but i never raced 250gp bikes I did follow him round manfeild a few times him on tz me on rgv so I didnt learn much from that.
Simon was never as good as he would like us all to beleive

Yip fully agree (even if it is with with a four fingered frick from fielding)
Bruce would blow Simons butt into the weeeeds. (& mine for that matter) - earth to Gimpy , Earth to Gimpy , sell some spuds and prepare for a new investment in two smokes.......................

[Crasherfromwayback]

[QUOTE=codgyoleracer;1129764688Bruce would blow Simons butt into the weeeeds. (& mine for that matter) ..[/QUOTE]

That's odd mate...because when the 3 of use were racing 883's that didn't happen! And you obviously didn't watch Simon racing the late Robert Holden round Wanganui. Robert on a fully wanked 916, Simon on an RS250. I've raced Bruce more than most people here, and Simon a fair bit too. And on the day...Simon is easily a fast as Bruce ever was. Simon was also NZ's youngest ever national champ I believe racing a GP bike?? Bruce sure is fast..but there are others over the years that are/were just as fast.

[codgyoleracer]

That's odd mate...because when the 3 of use were racing 883's that didn't happen! And you obviously didn't watch Simon racing the late Robert Holden round Wanganui. Robert on a fully wanked 916, Simon on an RS250. I've raced Bruce more than most people here, and Simon a fair bit too. And on the day...Simon is easily a fast as Bruce ever was. Simon was also NZ's youngest ever national champ I believe racing a GP bike?? Bruce sure is fast..but there are others over the years that are/were just as fast.

Yes i did see Wangas, (I was still eating candy floss & in daipers of course.........) the streets are very different to purist racing.
I know where my hard earned cash would be......., unless the sherriff turned up of course on YSS suspension & then he would have my money for sure......

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes i did see Wangas, (I was still eating candy floss & in daipers of course.........) the streets are very different to purist racing.
I know where my hard earned cash would be......., unless the sherriff turned up of course on YSS suspension & then he would have my money for sure......

Yes the streets are VERY different to PURIST racing. Guess that's why Bruce specializes at The Isle of Mann etc, and has never broken into PURIST racing over there eh? By the way...Bruce & Simon never raced the 883's on Street circuits. But Simon sure was as fast as Bruce as often as not. And don't forget...he was also NZ's youngest RR champ on an RS on the PURIST's tracks. I don't think that unless you've raced them both...on similar equipment you'll ever really know!

[codgyoleracer]

Yes the streets are VERY different to PURIST racing. Guess that's why Bruce specializes at The Isle of Mann etc, and has never broken into PURIST racing over there eh? By the way...Bruce & Simon never raced the 883's on Street circuits. But Simon sure was as fast as Bruce as often as not. And don't forget...he was also NZ's youngest RR champ on an RS on the PURIST's tracks. I don't think that unless you've raced them both...on similar equipment you'll ever really know!

True, Bruce never found the spare $300K to do that, then again nor did Simon. Mr Turner is undeniably quick - but in my book ran hot n cold speedwise compared to Ansty.

Bottom line though , both good blokes , and kiwi racers that have nothin left to prove to anyone. Unlike Craig , whom we are all still waitin to c win a nzsbk title............

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mr Turner is undeniably quick - but in my book ran hot n cold speedwise compared to Ansty.

Bottom line though , both good blokes , and kiwi racers that have nothin left to prove to anyone..

Bruce was more consistent yes. Bruce is a good friend of mine, always has been. Simon an aquaintance. And correct, nothing else to prove.

Speaking of titles...when are you gonna shake up some folks in a different class? Bout time you left F3 so some other cunt can win it!!!