Do we really know just how serious the oil spill is?

[Mudfart]

when they started removing oil from the ground in the 1800's, did they know all the scientific data for the reason mother nature had developed oil and what its purpose is, in nature?. I would argue that science was still quite primitive then, and say no.
Hypothetically, what if oil was natures lubricant, that in some deposits, at between bedrock or crust that was part of a tectonic? plate. I cant remember if they are called tectonic.
SO, hypothetically, what if oil in its natural state, reduced the friction caused by movements in the crust? and we replace the oil we have taken with water, or sand?.
I've learned over my 30 odd years that when you take something away from performing its natural "job", and replace it with something completely different, you will eventually get a fuck up beyond all proportions ever imagined.
But then I hear that oil reserves replenish themselves naturally, but I dont beleive anything I hear from the media these days.

[Quasievil]

Different mistake and scenario sure, but check out the actions of the oil company, coastguard, polititians and locals, and the GOM spill is just a replay.

yeah dude, just watching the Youtube now mate. seems that way doesnt it

[MisterD]

Interesting parallels with recent corporate problems here. Both Telecom and BP decided a good few years ago to concentrate of being "brands" and sub-contract the messy business of actually running a network (to Alcatel) or drilling for oil (to Halliburton)...suddenly they find themselves responsible for failures that they'd distanced themselves from really being able to control.

That f'ing Obama's got a brass neck though whining about BP's responsibilities to the American people and adding a bit of snide pom-bashing into the equation. Three words arsehole: Union, Carbide and Bhopal.

[Naki Rat]

Oil is only the leachate from nature's compost heap which is contained in pores in the rock. Lubricant that has an effect on tectonic plates ?? Damn there's some misinformed theories out there

Sure oil replenishes itself but the time frames of its formation versus our extraction are poles apart. We have depleted millions of years of oil creation in about a century. Go figure.

[Naki Rat]

yeah dude, just watching the Youtube now mate. seems that way doesnt it

And when you turn over rocks in Prince William Sound you still find crude oil today

[mashman]

Three words arsehole: Union, Carbide and Bhopal.

that's 4 dude

So it's yet another fuck up... could be the worst of all time... I read the article of the survivor off of the rig (can't imagine how long it must have felt)... he shoulda knocked the dumb fuck out that told him all was "well" and pulled the plug himself (but then he'd have to start looking for a new job)... what's the cost of losing a drilling platform v's the amount of oil being lost in the ocean (which can be recovered)?

You know my usual response to this shit, the pressure for PROFIT fucking up yet another part of the planet, killing innocent people and creating a sideshow that more than rivals the antics of Sideshow Bob... Are you ready to reconsider the future of NZ yet?

[Quasievil]

The link says the message

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog...ry-3-days.html

[onearmedbandit]

With the amount spewing out I'm surpried the oil compainies haven't jacked up their prices yet. Maybe that would be bad form at the present time though. 'Hey, we fucked up, we're killing the environment, but it's ok, after putting our prices up we're still making a profit'.

[Naki Rat]

With the amount spewing out I'm surpried the oil compainies haven't jacked up their prices yet. Maybe that would be bad form at the present time though. 'Hey, we fucked up, we're killing the environment, but it's ok, after putting our prices up we're still making a profit'.

World oil production peaked in 2008 at approximately 75 million barrels per day. 50,000 - 100,000 barrels/day is not goung to figure in oil prices directly, but the cost of the clean-up will find its way to the pump eventually.

[wysper]

Oil is only the leachate from nature's compost heap which is contained in pores in the rock. Lubricant that has an effect on tectonic plates ?? Damn there's some misinformed theories out there

Hey Naki, I don't think he actually meant that the oil was a lubricant, I believe what he was suggesting was if we remove something from nature and replace it with something else, we may end up with unexpected and potentially catastrophic consequences.

[Naki Rat]

Hey Naki, I don't think he actually meant that the oil was a lubricant, I believe what he was suggesting was if we remove something from nature and replace it with something else, we may end up with unexpected and potentially catastrophic consequences.

Ah, we're not actually replacing the extracted oil with anything, except in the case of gas reinjection to 'stimulate' more oil out of depleted reservoirs..

[wysper]

Ah, we're not actually replacing the extracted oil with anything, except in the case of gas reinjection to 'stimulate' more oil out of depleted reservoirs..

alright, perhaps I will reduce it even more, fuck with mother nature and eventually she will fight back.

from science, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Not directly applicable here perhaps, but the idea is the same.

Spritually, Karma.

Christian, you reap what you sow.

etc

I believe the poster was suggesting that we can't act with impunity, ignorance of consequences will not stave off said consequences. You may not know what effects you actions will have. But they will have repercussions.

I guess it is similar with mining, you cant keep digging holes in the ground without destabilising the area.

[Genestho]

Survivors Account - Interview with CNN...http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/06/08...gns/index.html

And here's the Conspiracy Theory........http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1367.htm

[BoristheBiter]

With the amount spewing out I'm surpried the oil compainies haven't jacked up their prices yet. Maybe that would be bad form at the present time though. 'Hey, we fucked up, we're killing the environment, but it's ok, after putting our prices up we're still making a profit'.

Got a letter from industrial lubricants saying its going up by 4-5%, BP and Castrol logo at bottom of page.

[george formby]

While this is a disaster that will be felt for a long time to come, no one (myself included) knows what goes on in the oil fields of third world countries.
I watched with disgust on Monday night the "Ross Kemp looks for pirates".
I could not even begin to describe how bad it was. He was in Nigeria and it was all because of the oil fields and corruption in the government.
I will try and find it on YouTube and post up here.
But it makes you think of what else we are not told about.

That programme blew me away. As Colonel Kurtz said "the horror, the horror".

If oil is supplanted with Nuclear power to run our electric vehicles what do generations to come have to look forward too?

Apparently a number of oil / methane plumes have been found around the drill head belching massive volumes of gas & oil into the ocean. They have never been seen before, knowbody can say what the consequences of this deluge, spill is to small a word, will be.

On a smaller scale the 3rd world has had to put up with gung ho oil recovery to keep the 1st world in cheap consumer goods for decades, I guess this whole disaster is Karma, a bitter, toxic wake up call.