Wayne Gardner demands immediate TT ban

**jonbuoy** · 6th July 2010, 19:11

I can see why the IOM wants to keep self governing. Anyone who thinks spectators just turn up for the "ghoul show" is mistaken - the huge number of bikers who make the effort to get to the TT - which isn´t exactly a cheap and easy trip MAKE the TT viable.

**_Shrek_** · 6th July 2010, 20:04

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

This thread has done it's dash, I'll agree with that much.

Still, I stand my ground that the IoM should be allowed to continue, and that most spectators are not watching because the riders are putting their lives on the line, but rather they are watching it because it's damn good fun to watch.

aye +1

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

where speeds don't exceed 15km/h

No It's to dangerous, I came off at 15km in my drive way, bike landed on my heel smashed my ankle & broke my leg

**Shaun** · 7th July 2010, 08:22

To all the people with BAN the place replies, FUCK off soft cocks.

Our world is so PC these days, that a man cannot even fart in public anymare for f sake.

Out of respect to the 200 odd that have lost there lives doing what they WANTED TO DO with There lives, RIP TEAM!

You can all sit back and type this and type that, but I know I raced there with my family support, and I know 99% of other racers raced there with there family support, so again, PISS off negative posters, and get back in your soft safe chairs, and have a wonderfull non challenging normall life.

MODS, sorry about the directness, but this shit on here really pisses me off. Delete if you must?

**White trash** · 7th July 2010, 08:40

Originally Posted by Shaun

To all the people with BAN the place replies, FUCK off soft cocks.

Our world is so PC these days, that a man cannot even fart in public anymare for f sake.

Out of respect to the 200 odd that have lost there lives doing what they WANTED TO DO with There lives, RIP TEAM!

You can all sit back and type this and type that, but I know I raced there with my family support, and I know 99% of other racers raced there with there family support, so again, PISS off negative posters, and get back in your soft safe chairs, and have a wonderfull non challenging normall life.

MODS, sorry about the directness, but this shit on here really pisses me off. Delete if you must?

And there you have your definitive answer, someone who's raced, won, lost, crashed, almost not come back and knows the risks to him and his family better than anyone else.

Hey Shaun, better look out mate a bunch of people are going to come and see you at MAnfeild and explain nice and gently why you need to be banned from doing what you love and live for. Even though it's your choice and that, they feel you need protecting from yourself and told what's best for you.

Sue's agreed to be there with her Paramedic kit on standby and I've got some people really good at spotting knocked out teeth off the floor.

**Quasievil** · 7th July 2010, 08:41

Originally Posted by Shaun

To all the people with BAN the place replies, FUCK off soft cocks.

Our world is so PC these days, that a man cannot even fart in public anymare for f sake.

Out of respect to the 200 odd that have lost there lives doing what they WANTED TO DO with There lives, RIP TEAM!

You can all sit back and type this and type that, but I know I raced there with my family support, and I know 99% of other racers raced there with there family support, so again, PISS off negative posters, and get back in your soft safe chairs, and have a wonderfull non challenging normall life.

MODS, sorry about the directness, but this shit on here really pisses me off. Delete if you must?

Nah Close it down

**Tony.OK** · 7th July 2010, 09:18

Originally Posted by Shaun

To all the people with BAN the place replies, FUCK off soft cocks.

Our world is so PC these days, that a man cannot even fart in public anymare for f sake.

Out of respect to the 200 odd that have lost there lives doing what they WANTED TO DO with There lives, RIP TEAM!

You can all sit back and type this and type that, but I know I raced there with my family support, and I know 99% of other racers raced there with there family support, so again, PISS off negative posters, and get back in your soft safe chairs, and have a wonderfull non challenging normall life.

MODS, sorry about the directness, but this shit on here really pisses me off. Delete if you must?

Fukn aye!......................been waiting 16 pages for that

**Shaun** · 7th July 2010, 09:19

Originally Posted by White trash

You're joking right Marcus? You only race the streets because it's good for your sponsors yet you think it's to dangerous, am I reading you right? Well my boy, I suggest you get your arse the hell out of road racing please for the very simple following reason.

It's widely known that the streets are more dangerous to race on, there's no argument from me. Contrary to other posts spectators do not go to see crashes, they go for the closest racing the country can offer and be close to the action. But the racers go BY CHOICE, i.e knowing the risks.

Now if for some obscene reason you manage to kill yourself there, (heaven forbid), the last thing the organisers, public, benefiting communities, other racers, MNZ and YOUR SPONSORS need is your Mum, Dad and girlfriend being interviewed by the media stating you never wanted to race there but had to for your sponsors. Utter shit. Get out of steet racing now before you damage it further.

Ta

100% AGREE with your last line White Trash

**Oscar** · 7th July 2010, 09:48

Let's be clear here - I think Paeroa, Wanganui etc are fantastic events, well run and managing for the most part to juggle the conflicting elements of rider/fan safety with a challenging quick course.

However, every time a politician or opinionated member of the public sees adverse news from the IOM (and ironically, that includes Mr. Gardner's comments), and particularly when it involves a death or serious injury to a Kiwi rider - our local events become that little bit harder to run.

**Quasievil** · 7th July 2010, 10:01

Originally Posted by Shaun

This post I do Take as a personell attack, keep your mouth shut big mouth

And I am sure I speak for Paul and Robert as well

Nope nothing personal there towards you Shaun, not that I can see.
The discussion was clearly about the safety of the the track and if it should be allowed to continue based on Wayne Gardeners comments.

Some say its ok to continue and some say its done its dash and is getting to dangerous, I fall in to the latter group which is my choice, you can fall into the earlier group and thats cool, most of my mates fall into the same group as you also which is sweet, I actually dont have to agree do I, and whats the point in all agreeing.
Sadly the fact is that during the ManxGP and the next year IOM a few riders will die, thats actually most likey and sadly a fact, I dont think this is acceptable out of a single track weather Paeroa or the IOM, clearly the track is dangerous and should be filed into history, In my view.
You can beat your chest and call me a softcock as much as you like, but I can and will assure you that my opinion is a fair and reasonable one to hold, might not be the same as yours but its mine and I have one so you need to get over that.

**Drumboy4468** · 7th July 2010, 10:16

I simply cant see how those who have never competed can make this decision for those who have ( wayne gardner included)
Personaly I have the utmost respect for anyone who has the courage tallent and skill to take that challange on.
Even at the local cliffhanger event I am constantly blown away by the level of skill of some of the riders ( saddly for me some of them half my age lol) and the sense of comradery amongst almost all of the riders. I can only imagine the level that it must be at the isle.

As far as the coimment i beleive was made about families of the fallen having there hands out for donations I found that pretty off. What you will find actually happens is that people want to help and that is proven by Seans generosity. He was in a postion not so long ago of neading help and he got it so now he is giving back. Thats the spirrit you will find amongst real bikers

**Katman** · 7th July 2010, 10:22

Originally Posted by Drumboy4468

Personaly I have the utmost respect for anyone who has the courage tallent and skill to take that challange on.

I'm sure most here would have a similar viewpoint - but that's not what this thread's about.

It's about whether this event is ultimately doing more harm for the sport than good.

**Tink** · 7th July 2010, 10:36

Originally Posted by Shaun

To all the people with BAN the place replies, FUCK off soft cocks.

Our world is so PC these days, that a man cannot even fart in public anymare for f sake.

Out of respect to the 200 odd that have lost there lives doing what they WANTED TO DO with There lives, RIP TEAM!

You can all sit back and type this and type that, but I know I raced there with my family support, and I know 99% of other racers raced there with there family support, so again, PISS off negative posters, and get back in your soft safe chairs, and have a wonderfull non challenging normall life.

MODS, sorry about the directness, but this shit on here really pisses me off. Delete if you must?

A female pespective, and I do not have a "cock" thanks... but I don't think they should ban it, but possibly make the entry more strict, I have no clue, but I knew Paul through his work, and I was guttered when he died, but it is the choice of the rider, so dig deep Shaun, your right!!!!!!!

**Matt Bleck** · 7th July 2010, 10:50

http://www.crash.net/road+racing/new...ack_on_tt.html

**Quasievil** · 7th July 2010, 10:58

This quote from the legend Gardener sums it up in my view (yes Shaun I am allowed one)
Remember: there's a key difference between closed circuit racing (such as MotoGP) and the TT, and that's this: The TT virtually guarantees bodies on boxes EVERY year.”

One question I raised earlier and im interested in is, what modifications if any, and how many modifications or investment has gone into making the track safer over the years? anyone know.
Surely there have been adjustments and added safety measures put in place, anyone know?