You can also add to the list that the government has capped the budget of many government departments. However, I don't think you are seeking positive examples.
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You can also add to the list that the government has capped the budget of many government departments. However, I don't think you are seeking positive examples.
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Last of a dying breed
Lets get this straight: I am not bagging the government. I am stating facts. All the ones I have added to post #1 are facts. The figures are available. Each one of them is a fact. That means they are real. True.Originally Posted by sinned
The "ACC is broke" is not true. Or at least is is only a opinion of some.
Your statement that the government is borrowing $250 mill/week is same. They tell us they are borrowing. From where? This is at best an estimate, at worst a poor guess.
Re the capping. This does not directly affect the individual. Yes, indirectly it probably does. But to cap spending for lets say Immigration will not have a direct effect on me.
Again: I am NOT bagging the government here. I am only trying to get factual financial changes that will effect the individual in one place.
EDIT: And as a result of this you could argue that my #5 re Childcare funding is not affecting us directly. But I will leave it there as the information there are facts. They are now in place.
Last edited by Conquiztador; 14th July 2010 at 19:50. Reason: #5 could be argued as one that will not hit us in the pocket directly.
Forum whore
Herein lies the issue of only considering the immediate impact on yourself - everything will in time affect you.
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Last of a dying breed
But that is guessing. We have no idea how it will affect us. Take GST. We know we will pay 15% on everything instead of 12.5%.
Or EST. We know we will pay more for everything.
Capping of government department spending might be good for us. Or bad. I have no idea. You might have an opinion. But opinions are not facts. 2.5% additional cost on everything is a fact. Nothing will change that.
You are veering in to politics. At this stage that is not what interest me (in this thread anyhow). I am trying to figure out what has changed for the individual and/or what will change that has already been decided on.
Insert Title Here
You are not able to move forward without looking back or repairing the damage that has already been done. Its like building a house really, if the foundations have been eroded its pointless trying to add another story as its going to tumble and is dangerous.
Also; it does matter who the sitting Govt are. Their Policies and Values are partially what drive what we get/ give and at what cost both Socially and Fiscally.
Personally I'm very happy with my lot as well as the current situation and Govt.
Forum whore
How about approaching it from a different angle of ''percentage cuts''?
Start from ground zero;
What services do we actually need? How many MP's and bureaucrats do we actually need to run those services? Lets totally get rid of historical grievance claims as interbreeding has diluted the ''neccessity''. Etc etc
I would suggest that comparing the two sets of figures would be very interesting
dodgy is as dodgy does
I'm also very happy with my situation, but I think the current government are as bad as the last lot, and quite probably worse. Like Labour they lack imagination and don't have the courage to engage in any real changes to the way we do things, so like Labour we are missing opportunities and are too vulnerable to external influences. Labour were probably slightly more intelligent and had more heart, but Clark was too willing to compromise to stay in government and allowed idiots like Peter Dunne and Winston Peters to have a disproportionate degree of influence on the legislative process.
The current lot have a leader with a lovely smile, but they are a pack of softcocks and too busy pissing around with silly ideas like party central and the cycle way and redundant ideology like privatising essential services to take any solid leadership, so we will end up back in recession (it's a miracle we rebounded as much as we did).
Don't blame me, I voted Green.
Hardcore Biker
Deserving of a new thread imo
Forum whore
That magenta's a lovely colour.
Royal Enfield user
See my post with the links to the Charts
theres your proof
and if u want a link to the IMP statement about NZ , more than happy to provide
it is NOT what National , the Current government has done it IS what the Current government has been advised to do
What happens as a result of that advice is what I assume u are trying to quantify
but thats a bit like a man with no money trying to Justify his financial position
Successive NZ government by and large have been quite astute ,,, just the topping on the cake that changes
Stephen
Ps those charts in the links provide a wealth of Facts
China is where I would be looking
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
Last of a dying breed
Suddenly we are in this thread trying to fix NZ. That was never my intention. I only wanted to have all the changes that has been made that affects the individuals finances as a result of more costs/more $$'s in the pocket in one place.
Please do not get me wrong: I would love to have the key to fixing NZ and all our issues. But I only wanted to know what decisions had been made to change everyones personal financial situation.
dodgy is as dodgy does
With respect, I think it was naive to expect this government to improve the financial circumstances of the average New Zealander. If anything they were always going to impact negatively on the majority of citizens, yet we all held such high hopes. I remember the almost cargo-cult like excitement leading up to and immediately after the election: finally we had a businessman running the country, and a party made up of successful business people instead of career politicians and failed academics. We had a leader who grew up in a state house with a single mother, a leader with the common touch who knew and understood the struggles we were all experiencing. Finally we would be rid of the nanny state PC social engineering of the Labour government.
Oh happy days!
Now 2 years later reality is cruelly grinding its heel in our faces. The astute and successful businessman we voted in was a successful money market trader - the kind of animal that the 80s yuppies would have idolised, and who lives in a mansion in Parnell. He has as little in common with the guy running a small factory in South Auckland, the plumber with a couple of vans in Otaki or the supermarket owner in Christchurch as he has with the Dali Lama. His government consists of career politicians (Bill English, Jerry Brownlee) and failed academics (Nick Smith), a few opportunists and a few genuinely talented people. Just like the last government.
The economy is stagnating and the brief shoots of recovery that excited us all are dying as employment stagnates, business confidence drops and the dollar stays high. In the wake of the global economic crisis we had a new government with at least 3 years to introduce radical reforms and lift us up; a new government that gave us a cycle way and a super city.
We were given tax cuts to make us happy and stimulate the economy, but for the overwhelming majority of New Zealanders those tax cuts will be largely, if not entirely taken back in the form of the rise in GST, the ETS, rising inflation and increases to ACC.
In 4 or 7 years time Labour will sweep into power and we'll all be excited about the brave new world they offer, and we will all be disappointed.
I have studied politics for many years and my observation is that Labour promise the world, get voted into power and then start doing what they always intended, only they tell everyone that what they're doing is for our best interests. National promise the world, get voted into power and then start doing what they always intended, only they give tax cuts (which they immediately take back) to distract us then tell us that what they're doing is for our best interests.
Don't blame me, I voted Green.
Anarchic Wild Child
Why do you all give a shit ? It's in the nature of Governments to screw us over ... doens't matter which one ... they will still screw us over ...
Get over it, get out there are ride ... and stop wasting energy on a pointless exercise ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Forum whore
That is a good idea - I am off for a ride and while doing that I am not earning so that means I am not paying tax. Except for the GST on the petrol I am burning - but GST hasn't gone up yet so I am saving 2.5% by riding my bike today rather than in a few months time.
Ride more now and save money, don't work and save tax - works for me.
Here for the ride.
Forum whore
Can't afford to ride very often now.
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