Brno MotoGP: forget the racing...

**NZsarge** · 14th August 2010, 06:51

Originally Posted by slowpoke

Haha, Crutchlow is one guy I'm happy to see struggle. Definitely not one of the paddocks "nice guys". .

Hmm ok, please elaborate on that statement, i'd like to know how you know he's not one of "the nice guys". Not septic mate just interested.

**slowpoke** · 14th August 2010, 07:32

Originally Posted by NZsarge

Hmm ok, please elaborate on that statement, i'd like to know how you know he's not one of "the nice guys". Not septic mate just interested.

He's a good rider, but the articles I've read (nightshift's can be a fuggin' drag sometimes I tell ya) paint a picture of cocky arrogant arsehole who pissed off lotsa folks in BSB, then spruiked himself up in WSS. I take the articles with a grain of salt but even fans in the UK struggle with his attitude. I wouldn't wish a crash on anyone but I love seeing him finish behind Rea and Haslam on last years championship winning bike.

**NZsarge** · 14th August 2010, 07:35

Fair enough mate, not everyone has to like everyone.

**gixerracer** · 14th August 2010, 09:01

Originally Posted by slowpoke

Waddayamean? JB built his ride. I read a write up about when JB and Rossi first rode Biaggi's M1. Rossi reckoned it was a pig, pushing the front, couldn't turn or brake (remember Biaggi losing the front all time?). JB was all smiles 'cos he'd been there and done that with the NSR and knew what the problem was: raise engine and COG. The rest is history. Lorenzo is well and truly reaping the reward from Rossi and Burgess's hard work.

Honestly do you people all live in f___ng caves with Rossi pictures on the wall????
Dont get me wrong I think Rossi is God like and will be a long time b4 we C another GOAT in moto gp but did Burgess and Rossi help Lorenzo win his 250 and 125 races etc NO How many Motogp races has he won while Rossi and Bugess were away Almost all of them, Do you think they ran the same setup from the last race meeting Rossi gave them??? Come on dicks wake up this guy is the MAN I am not a big fan but the Dude is good

**BMWST?** · 14th August 2010, 11:29

Originally Posted by gixerracer

Honestly do you people all live in f___ng caves with Rossi pictures on the wall????
Dont get me wrong I think Rossi is God like and will be a long time b4 we C another GOAT in moto gp but did Burgess and Rossi help Lorenzo win his 250 and 125 races etc NO How many Motogp races has he won while Rossi and Bugess were away Almost all of them, Do you think they ran the same setup from the last race meeting Rossi gave them??? Come on dicks wake up this guy is the MAN I am not a big fan but the Dude is good

Lorenzo iS good,but he has always had very good equipment.Whatever the pros and conx of each individual and team I think we are going to have some very interesting times ahead.The grids may be small but i think the closeness of the racing is the best for years,in that the feild is much more compact.I think we are going to see some really good mid pack races with Hayden,dovi,simoncelli,melandri,spies,depuniet,the n maybe another group of espargo,edwards,kallio,bautista,capirossi.

**White trash** · 14th August 2010, 11:38

Originally Posted by gixerracer

Honestly do you people all live in f___ng caves with Rossi pictures on the wall????
Dont get me wrong I think Rossi is God like and will be a long time b4 we C another GOAT in moto gp but did Burgess and Rossi help Lorenzo win his 250 and 125 races etc NO How many Motogp races has he won while Rossi and Bugess were away Almost all of them, Do you think they ran the same setup from the last race meeting Rossi gave them??? Come on dicks wake up this guy is the MAN I am not a big fan but the Dude is good

Why don't you just fuck off and start doing what you do best, wrecking race bikes. There's a good boy....

**pritch** · 14th August 2010, 12:44

Originally Posted by Sensei

I don't think Rossi was very keen to have 10+ million taken off his pay check by Yamaha ,

He was reportedly not too upset by that. Until he found that Lorenzo was going to get most of it...

I still think that it would have been been in the best interests of all involved if Honda could have swallowed their pride and sent a message, "Come back Jerry and Vale, all is forgiven."

For several reasons I think that Yamaha will start a graceful slide from their present competitive position, and not just because it appears that Ducati will have all their secrets?

There have been a couple of references to Lorenzo being the next GOAT. By definition there can only be one GOAT. On total GP wins at present it is still Ago, but Rossi is racking up all sorts of records of his own.

I await Rossi's announcement with interest.

It'll also be interesting to see if Elias can overcome the penalty of his Friday practice ban.

**george formby** · 14th August 2010, 13:35

Brno, forget the racing? Well, add gorgeous Czech paddock girls & probably the best beer in the world to the mix & you probably would.

**jasonu** · 14th August 2010, 18:41

[QUOTE
Even close to home you had those 2 amazing Australian Grand Prix in 89, 90, multiple bikes battling on the last lap.

Those are my favorite races of all time, especially the 1990 when WG did a massive near highside which broke the fairing brackets and the belly pan was rubbing on the rear wheel. Didn't know if hew would crash or not and funny thing was his top speed increased with the wanked fairing.
Shame KSwantz crashed out early, could have been a 3 way battle with him, WG and Doohan...

**BIG DOUG** · 14th August 2010, 21:30

Hasn't yamaha had a wall between lorenzo and rossi for a couple of years,if thats the case lorenzo doesn't need a homo lilke rossi to set his bike up, he now no's how to do it.

**slowpoke** · 15th August 2010, 01:10

Originally Posted by gixerracer

Honestly do you people all live in f___ng caves with Rossi pictures on the wall????
Dont get me wrong I think Rossi is God like and will be a long time b4 we C another GOAT in moto gp but did Burgess and Rossi help Lorenzo win his 250 and 125 races etc NO How many Motogp races has he won while Rossi and Bugess were away Almost all of them, Do you think they ran the same setup from the last race meeting Rossi gave them??? Come on dicks wake up this guy is the MAN I am not a big fan but the Dude is good

Go make ya self useful and change the signage on the truck would ya?

No argument Lorenzo is blardy good, amazing talent at what, 22? 23? But he's also inherited the best bike in the paddock off Burgess and Rossi. I just don't see don't see Lorenzo and his crew having the same development ability.

It's hard not to like Rossi, but I'm not a cult member. Burgess and his guys are half the the equation that I don't think get enough credit. You never know though, we could well be seeing the changing of the guard.

Oi...you finished with that truck yet? Fark me, just as well you aren't that slow on the track mate.....

**eelracing** · 15th August 2010, 15:09

Originally Posted by White trash

Oh, nah, I'd rather watch (without a doubt) the best riders in the world running around in proceession on the prototype pinacle of motorcycling engineering we now enjoy. Yawn. No wonder I fall asleep after the first lap. . Just stating that I'd rather have an early night and a nice shag than sit up by myself to watch the usual suspects do 30 laps in the so called "World Champs"

I'm gonna bite coz ignorance has no place in this arguement.

You're an obvious johnny cum lately or else you would know GP racing aint about the show but the challenge of racing the best riders on the best bikes...afterall you have Moto2/Superbikes/sport 600 etc if all you want is close racing.

True GP racing fans get off on the human/technical battle as well.When a rival rider has an effective advantage be it skill or technical,that is when a true champion will step up.

Anyone remember Honda coming back with a V3 after the NR embarrassment and taking on Kenny Roberts on the powerfull (but unwieldy)V4 Yamaha.It took the skills of a man called Freddie to win on the less powerfull but sweeter handling Honda...brilliant racing ensued.

Edde Lawson swapped to the hugely powerfull but flighty Honda and had his ass handed to him for the 1st half the season by Rainey/Yamaha.What did he do? He and Erv cut and braced that Honda frame to within an inch of it's life and Eddie physically rode the "bitch" harder than he had any bike before it and pressured Rainey into throwing the Championship away.For that was the make-up of the man.

Doohan was under pressure from Criville who was catching and increasingly beating him.Mick then decided to go back to the screamer engine and trounced him...nothing to do with the bike but more to do with the fact that the other riders were out phsyced by a percieved advantage.
Having Criville try out the screamer and highsiding his brains out on it helped as well.

Rossi goes to Yamaha to prove the naysayers wrong about the supposed Honda advantage etc etc the list is endless and now the Ducati/Rossi pairing maybe another???

Get ya shags in early coz next year is gonna be a ripper.

**Dave-** · 15th August 2010, 20:30

ben spies on the podium.

rest doesnt matter.

**Mental Trousers** · 15th August 2010, 20:49

Originally Posted by Matt Bleck

Can Rossi do it on the Duc without Burgess is the question, this could be Rossi's biggest mistake!

Indeed. I reckon Burgess will want to stick with Yamaha and work with Ben Spies. Burgess is someone who can spot and develop champions and I reckon he'll be wanting to take Spies right to the top.

Yamaha will stay with Lorenzo rather than Rossi. They'll look to the future.