What's the point?

[SMOKEU]

Yeah even if you did, if you didn't re-offend within 7 years it most likely would have got wiped.

A criminal record will stay with you for life. Even 30 years down the track a routine traffic stop could dredge up a historic minor offence.

[scissorhands]

I'd guess that bust was political. The english person who was fined the 100quid had probably been known to the police for a while, and they thought it would make good television, or they had the cameras ready and waiting with no crims about, but hey, what about 'whats his name' with the hash.....

Once the film crew for the TV show Piha Rescue were looking bored I approached them and asked if they wanted me to throw myself off the rocks. They were dead set keen for some real live action! (many of the rescues are fake)

Check this ongoing story of the 'Waiheke Four' and the massive cost to the state, when activists and protestors use the 'roaring lion' :

http://norml.org.nz/postt8856.html&s...c1962a5a4a53dd

Its a blow by blow account of a massive bill to the tax payer, probably over $1mill when she's all done and dusted. Many cannabis users, advocates and protesters now stamp their foot in disgust at such an unnecessary situation.

The crazy thing about the waiheke four is that they made the mistake of smoking openly near the beach. This is far worse than smoking at home, which unless your dealing, is of little importance to the police. They have to be seen to be doing their job when a complaint is made...

[Headbanger]

Check this ongoing story of the 'Waiheke Four' and the massive cost to the state, when activists and protestors use the 'roaring lion' :

http://norml.org.nz/postt8856.html&s...c1962a5a4a53dd

Its a blow by blow account of a massive bill to the tax payer, probably over $1mill when she's all done and dusted. Many cannabis users, advocates and protesters now stamp their foot in disgust at such an unnecessary situation.

The crazy thing about the waiheke four is that they made the mistake of smoking openly near the beach. This is far worse than smoking at home, which unless your dealing, is of little importance to the police. They have to be seen to be doing their job when a complaint is made...

That is disgusting.

I hope the 4 wankers with the bong have to pay the bill.

Nah, Just make all the tax payers who don't support drugs pay it.

sweet bro, Bong on, In public , like a bunch of fuckwit retards.

Might as well shoot up some junk at the winz office.

[avgas]

A criminal record will stay with you for life. Even 30 years down the track a routine traffic stop could dredge up a historic minor offence.

yes/no. Your record is still your record. However internationally you have a 'clean slate' which means you don't have to declare at international borders etc.

As this used to stop A LOT of people going to other countries, and keeping all the violent druggies in NZ lol

Note - they can't pull you over, simply because you have a drug conviction (in your past). They have to suspect that YOU HAVE DRUGS NOW. Likewise for DIC and speeding etc. They can only dredge up details and try to ping them if they suspect you of re offending.

Contrary to your thoughts - the cops can't do what they want, when they want. As seen in central otago - if they get stung, its jail time....even for something minor.

[scissorhands]

That is disgusting.

I hope the 4 wankers with the bong have to pay the bill.

Nah, Just make all the tax payers who don't support drugs pay it.

sweet bro, Bong on, In public , like a bunch of fuckwit retards.

Might as well shoot up some junk at the winz office.

Drinking alcohol in public? Are you being fair? No

[onearmedbandit]

A criminal record will stay with you for life. Even 30 years down the track a routine traffic stop could dredge up a historic minor offence.

If you get diversion (which is an option available for a first offense) then you have no record of that arrest. I've been overseas a few times now, mostly Japan
(very harsh on cannabis there, a friend of mine did time there for giving his Japanese girlfriends brother a joint, and was banned from the country for 5 years) and Australia and never had an issue. Although if I was to get arrested again, then it would be a different story.

[Headbanger]

Drinking alcohol in public? Are you being fair? No

I don't care in the slightest who agrees with whatever laws but if you deliberately break the laws (in public) then you suffer the consequences, time to man up douche bags.

[scissorhands]

I don't care in the slightest who agrees with whatever laws but if you deliberately break the laws (in public) then you suffer the consequences, time to man up douche bags.

What about when laws need changing? Like weekend trading, 6oclock closing, being gay, being black on a bus? Yeah I can see some people here following the letter of the law... Fact is, cannabis laws are largely racist!

Al Mansell launches a call to arms over the spotting knives, outside Wellington Central Police Station lol

[scissorhands]

Al Mansell definitely has a sense of humour! lolz

[T.W.R]

yes/no. Your record is still your record. However internationally you have a 'clean slate' which means you don't have to declare at international borders etc.

As this used to stop A LOT of people going to other countries, and keeping all the violent druggies in NZ lol

true though even that can be bent within the time frame

A mate got convicted of possession many years ago and within a couple of years of that happening his old man retired & decided to shout the whole family a holiday to Thailand....plenty of hoops were jumped through to get allowance to travel there All happened because a couple of associates had gone to Amsterdam and posted a couple of blocks of hash to the flat customs intercepted & the police followed it up by doing a raid and found a couple pipes, bong & a tinnie

About the same era in time friends at Renuga got raided, but the cops used a search warrent on suspected stolen electrical goods as an excuse for the raid stupid thing was though for the next 2wks they'd sit down the road in a unmarked car till the early hours of the morning watching the house Had them pointed out & shown the warrent notice which had pride of place in the toilet after arriving there from a rained out punakaiki rally at which point col said F#@* them and proceeded to crank up the bong

[Headbanger]

What about when laws need changing?

Work within the system,start a group,write letters,stand for parliament.

lmfao.

I don't entirely disagree with you,but standing your bong on a picnic table in a public place is just stupidity, and when your that keen on attracting attention,no use crying about it later.

[avgas]

posted a couple of blocks of hash to the flat customs intercepted & the police followed it up by doing a raid and found a couple pipes, bong & a tinnie

Fools







You send it FEDEX and call is "Product Samples"

[scissorhands]

Work within the system,start a group,write letters,stand for parliament.

lmfao.

I don't entirely disagree with you,but standing your bong on a picnic table in a public place is just stupidity, and when your that keen on attracting attention,no use crying about it later.

Maybe they were 'manning up' against something they believe to be wrong. Maybe they are heroes? Maybe one day they will stop the arrest of teenagers, kids of yours and your neighbours, from prosecution and a record preventing them from moving forward in life?

Kids normally grow out of cannabis culture, then only smoke intermittently at parties, but strangely a criminal record may keep them on the stuff............

[avgas]

I don't entirely disagree with you,but standing your bong on a picnic table in a public place is just stupidity, and when your that keen on attracting attention,no use crying about it later.

I completely agree with the bug-eyed, street-fighting, growler... riding person says.
Some people are just asking for attention.

[scissorhands]

Check out the smile on the cops face from the tour to Invercargill