Wanganui programme?

[gixerracer]

Interesting reading, I like the Tri Series formula. Basically your only restricted by the engine size you have. There is no talk about bikes being illigal etc, there is no real sign of check book racing. Maybe if the nats were the same rules then people would be more inclined to invest in high priced items like forks etc but its good to see modified suspenders vs aftermarket suspenders, standard engines vs built engines. Its up to people where they spend there limited funds and the results all pan out pretty even some suit some tracks better then others

Too a point I agree with you here chop, the formula is great but I dont think it would be good for the Nationals as Suzuki would build a couple of missiles with trick front ends brakes and swingarms light weight wheels and then nobody would have a chance of competing for the win which would kind of ruin the class.
I would like to see something similar to superstock but run full pipes ecu wiring looms power commanders etc but engines completley stock

[Robert Taylor]

MY BAD, I thought I heard the announcer say that he had Broken the lap record. Still, not bad for Dan and Nick cole to both do 49.3 on standard front end modifications. A hell of a lot cheaper than after market complete internal modifications, ( And is built in New Zealand by NZ Workers keeping them employed) and there would NOT be an every day road rider out there who could use this set up to the limits they pushed it too.

On the basis of one stop go street circuit, and the advantages of those terrible nasty aftermarket parts were very apparent on a circuit like Hampton Downs as they will be at other road circuits. Id lay money on it that Dan Stauffer goes back to Australia and continues to run well fettled aftermarket suspension as he will well know the limitations of modified stock suspension on purpose built road race courses. Its fortunate for him that the Holden Memorial race was shortened and that Andrew was more aware of self mortality on a circuit with no run off. The lap record stands at 49 seconds dead and Id say that if Dan had full pedigree aftermarket suspension hed have been in the 48s with the way he was riding the wheels off the limitations of that bike.Funny how when it suits people they were more than happy to run aftermarket shocks, cartridges, even complete forks and other goodies to win races, break lap records and win national titles. Of course usually other people were paying or heavily subsidising the costs if my long memory serves me correctly.
A couple of years or so back I read an interesting book on Field Marshal Mannerheim, the leader of Finland before, during and after WW2. Ill loan it to anyone who cares to read it. He was a tenacious advocate for his countries survival whilst being squeezed by two tyrannical regimes but he also had a very dark habit of switching sides as it suited him. Irrespective that either of those tyrants ( Hitler or Stalin ) wanted to kill him at various times.
CKT too have embraced the Superstock formula in 600s and we have done more than a few with one rider in particular currently being a front running flag-bearer, but Im not so stupid nor cursed of breathtaking ego to think that he wouldnt be faster with pedigree aftermarket suspension. In fact the amount of re-engineering of stock stuff to make it work properly is more involved than people realise and if done properly more expensive than people realise. Ive seen copies of some sabre rattling e-mails where the author was stating that some mods to 600 rear shocks could be done very cheaply but the recent reality is that the bikes that have had those cheap mods have been quite average in results. Its also funny how much of what has been applied has been from the lessons and technology learnt from working constantly over the years with pedigree aftermarket suspension. And companies such as Race Tech that have run training schools, inevitably creating competitors who have attended such schools. The same brands that people quick of talking but short of first thinking it out properly and logically are all too quick to bag.
As for road bikes note that CKT have three levels of modifications, or four in fact

1) Modify stock valving and springing at low cost, with the caveat if the stock pistons are suitable for revalving.

2) Fit Race Tech internal upgrade components

3) Fit pedigree aftermarket suspension components such as rear shocks and full cartridge kits ( in CKTs case Ohlins, the world market leader by a country mile )

0r 4 ( and for example ) Ohlins rear shock and modified internals

Nothing new in that menu of options or the reality that we tailor the end job to the budget, be it a Bucket or a Superbike.

There are road riders that also want half decent track day suspension control but there are also a lot who want great bump compliance on our high ratio of bumpy roads, an important distinction. Road racing is but a part of the market.

[Rcktfsh]

MY BAD, I thought I heard the announcer say that he had Broken the lap record. .

Also said that Robert Holden died in 1997.

[Bren_chch]

ugghh - what happened in the 1st corner... race 2, who was invloved?

so what happened then?

[Dom]

On the basis of one stop go street circuit, and the advantages of those terrible nasty aftermarket parts were very apparent on a circuit like Hampton Downs as they will be at other road circuits. Id lay money on it that Dan Stauffer goes back to Australia and continues to run well fettled aftermarket suspension as he will well know the limitations of modified stock suspension on purpose built road race courses. Its fortunate for him that the Holden Memorial race was shortened and that Andrew was more aware of self mortality on a circuit with no run off. The lap record stands at 49 seconds dead and Id say that if Dan had full pedigree aftermarket suspension hed have been in the 48s with the way he was riding the wheels off the limitations of that bike.Funny how when it suits people they were more than happy to run aftermarket shocks, cartridges, even complete forks and other goodies to win races, break lap records and win national titles. Of course usually other people were paying or heavily subsidising the costs if my long memory serves me correctly.
A couple of years or so back I read an interesting book on Field Marshal Mannerheim, the leader of Finland before, during and after WW2. Ill loan it to anyone who cares to read it. He was a tenacious advocate for his countries survival whilst being squeezed by two tyrannical regimes but he also had a very dark habit of switching sides as it suited him. Irrespective that either of those tyrants ( Hitler or Stalin ) wanted to kill him at various times.
CKT too have embraced the Superstock formula in 600s and we have done more than a few with one rider in particular currently being a front running flag-bearer, but Im not so stupid nor cursed of breathtaking ego to think that he wouldnt be faster with pedigree aftermarket suspension. In fact the amount of re-engineering of stock stuff to make it work properly is more involved than people realise and if done properly more expensive than people realise. Ive seen copies of some sabre rattling e-mails where the author was stating that some mods to 600 rear shocks could be done very cheaply but the recent reality is that the bikes that have had those cheap mods have been quite average in results. Its also funny how much of what has been applied has been from the lessons and technology learnt from working constantly over the years with pedigree aftermarket suspension. And companies such as Race Tech that have run training schools, inevitably creating competitors who have attended such schools. The same brands that people quick of talking but short of first thinking it out properly and logically are all too quick to bag.
As for road bikes note that CKT have three levels of modifications, or four in fact

1) Modify stock valving and springing at low cost, with the caveat if the stock pistons are suitable for revalving.

2) Fit Race Tech internal upgrade components

3) Fit pedigree aftermarket suspension components such as rear shocks and full cartridge kits ( in CKTs case Ohlins, the world market leader by a country mile )

0r 4 ( and for example ) Ohlins rear shock and modified internals

Nothing new in that menu of options or the reality that we tailor the end job to the budget, be it a Bucket or a Superbike.

There are road riders that also want half decent track day suspension control but there are also a lot who want great bump compliance on our high ratio of bumpy roads, an important distinction. Road racing is but a part of the market.

Can I take up your offer and borrow that book off you. I might get time to read it by Nationals if you cut back on posting novels Dr!!!

[gixerracer]

Can I take up your offer and borrow that book off you. I might get time to read it by Nationals if you cut back on posting novels Dr!!!

Pharkn ae men 2 that

[suzuki21]

On the basis of one stop go street circuit, and the advantages of those terrible nasty aftermarket parts were very apparent on a circuit like Hampton Downs as they will be at other road circuits. Id lay money on it that Dan Stauffer goes back to Australia and continues to run well fettled aftermarket suspension as he will well know the limitations of modified stock suspension on purpose built road race courses. Its fortunate for him that the Holden Memorial race was shortened and that Andrew was more aware of self mortality on a circuit with no run off. The lap record stands at 49 seconds dead and Id say that if Dan had full pedigree aftermarket suspension hed have been in the 48s with the way he was riding the wheels off the limitations of that bike.Funny how when it suits people they were more than happy to run aftermarket shocks, cartridges, even complete forks and other goodies to win races, break lap records and win national titles. Of course usually other people were paying or heavily subsidising the costs if my long memory serves me correctly.
A couple of years or so back I read an interesting book on Field Marshal Mannerheim, the leader of Finland before, during and after WW2. Ill loan it to anyone who cares to read it. He was a tenacious advocate for his countries survival whilst being squeezed by two tyrannical regimes but he also had a very dark habit of switching sides as it suited him. Irrespective that either of those tyrants ( Hitler or Stalin ) wanted to kill him at various times.
CKT too have embraced the Superstock formula in 600s and we have done more than a few with one rider in particular currently being a front running flag-bearer, but Im not so stupid nor cursed of breathtaking ego to think that he wouldnt be faster with pedigree aftermarket suspension. In fact the amount of re-engineering of stock stuff to make it work properly is more involved than people realise and if done properly more expensive than people realise. Ive seen copies of some sabre rattling e-mails where the author was stating that some mods to 600 rear shocks could be done very cheaply but the recent reality is that the bikes that have had those cheap mods have been quite average in results. Its also funny how much of what has been applied has been from the lessons and technology learnt from working constantly over the years with pedigree aftermarket suspension. And companies such as Race Tech that have run training schools, inevitably creating competitors who have attended such schools. The same brands that people quick of talking but short of first thinking it out properly and logically are all too quick to bag.
As for road bikes note that CKT have three levels of modifications, or four in fact

1) Modify stock valving and springing at low cost, with the caveat if the stock pistons are suitable for revalving.

2) Fit Race Tech internal upgrade components

3) Fit pedigree aftermarket suspension components such as rear shocks and full cartridge kits ( in CKTs case Ohlins, the world market leader by a country mile )

0r 4 ( and for example ) Ohlins rear shock and modified internals

Nothing new in that menu of options or the reality that we tailor the end job to the budget, be it a Bucket or a Superbike.

There are road riders that also want half decent track day suspension control but there are also a lot who want great bump compliance on our high ratio of bumpy roads, an important distinction. Road racing is but a part of the market.

I will be brief as I am in a hurry. You dont know shit. Dan rode like he does on ANY BIKE. He likes winning and pushes the boundaries. "Oh no his shock will heat up and fail!" the fucking thing overheats on an R1 before you even get to the start line ps: I heard some fully kitted suspension bikes had front end problems, Dan was really radical and wanted 1/2 a turn of preload put on after race one. Kept me busy all day doing that. Fuck he is hard work.

[gixerracer]

I will be brief as I am in a hurry. You dont know shit. Dan rode like he does on ANY BIKE. He likes winning and pushes the boundaries. "Oh no his shock will heat up and fail!" the fucking thing overheats on an R1 before you even get to the start line ps: I heard some fully kitted suspension bikes had front end problems, Dan was really radical and wanted 1/2 a turn of preload put on after race one. Kept me busy all day doing that. Fuck he is hard work.

BAWhahahaahahahahahahahahahaha hes lucky i didnt try the same radical mod on my super trick kit I may have ben in the 48s then

[suzuki21]

BAWhahahaahahahahahahahahahaha hes lucky i didnt try the same radical mod on my super trick kit I may have ben in the 48s then

Yeh mate, you would have done 48's on a drag strip. Your bike has wanted to go straight ahead for a couple of weekends now.

[nick2slow]

You forgot it was ridden by some fat cunt.

Fucken CONGRATULATIONS on the little one by the way man, I assume that was your cutie you were pushing around in the pram? Unless you nicked off with one of Strouds of course, they're unlikely to miss just one.......

bah ha ha ha ha ha

[jellywrestler]

Also said that Robert Holden died in 1997.

there were three announcers on the day,I was one of them.
I recall mentioning Roberts demise, year date corner and sponsor maybe you need to give the old ears a cleanout.

[Rcktfsh]

there were three announcers on the day,I was one of them.
I recall mentioning Roberts demise, year date corner and sponsor maybe you need to give the old ears a cleanout.

Twas Ray not you.

[Bren_chch]

Ok i see now....

Shirriffs should by himself a Lotto ticket, after missing the second accident when Christchurch's Ryan Hampton (Honda CBR1000), in a kamikaze charge, tried to burst through the field from the start only to run out of room and crash, sliding past Shirriffs and taking out four frontrunners.

did you buy a lotto ticket?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsp...e-at-Whanganui

[Robert Taylor]

I will be brief as I am in a hurry. You dont know shit. Dan rode like he does on ANY BIKE. He likes winning and pushes the boundaries. "Oh no his shock will heat up and fail!" the fucking thing overheats on an R1 before you even get to the start line ps: I heard some fully kitted suspension bikes had front end problems, Dan was really radical and wanted 1/2 a turn of preload put on after race one. Kept me busy all day doing that. Fuck he is hard work.

Hello Joe Dirt! ( sorry for some reason you remind me of him! )

Here wae our day:

Dennis change the rear spring on Stroudys bike to one better able to absorb Wanganuis bumps.TRI SERIES F1 CHAMPION

We changed the fork oil level in Terry Fitzs bike TRI SERIES F3 CHAMPION

We supplied syringes to Ryan Hampton ( filled with oil not Kamikaze juice )

We added oil to Choppas forks and fitted a softer rear spring 2ND PLACE OVERALL F1 TRI SERIES

We added oil to Glen skatchills forks and change the front and rear clicker settings and preload a little TRI SERIES F2 CHAMPION

We fitted a slightly softer valving spec in Dennis Charletts rear shock, 2ND PLACE OVERALL F2 TRI SERIES

We changed the emulator setting , spring rate and oil level in Daniel Kempthornes Pro Twins spec SV650 as it had turned up with a Manfield setting that was too harsh for Wanganui

Ditto as above for Geoff Booths Pro Twins spec SV650. Please correct me if Im wrong but I think he may have finished 3rd overall in the F3 Tri series

At Haydens request Dennis installed a slightly different front fork valving spec in his compression fork. We installed a spec that we wanted to try for some time as a general test that may be applied to other bikes and his feedback was very positive. Indeed the construction of aftermarket cartridges facilatates much much quicker valving changes than oem stuff ( and I mean MUCH quicker ) and that is why we are not averse to doing so

Craig shirriffs shock was changed to one that had a much more compliant spec suitable for Wanganui., we also fitted a slightly different internal valving spec in his forks and spring rate

ETC, we also looked at bikes that were set up by another guy that the riders were very unhappy with, and made positive suggestions that they were happy with. No money changed hands and WE WILL HELP ANYONE THAT ASKS.

Are these indicative of problems? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Setting changes that wouldnt have been out of place in the environment of MotoGP, WSBK, AMA etc......


Oh, and the following day we consulted by phone on setting changes ( spring rate and clickers only ) for the rear end of Scott Moirs F2 CBR600 to comprehensively win the sprint races at the Taupo meeting. The forks werent touched.

[suzuki21]

Hello Joe Dirt! ( sorry for some reason you remind me of him! )

Here wae our day:

Dennis change the rear spring on Stroudys bike to one better able to absorb Wanganuis bumps.TRI SERIES F1 CHAMPION

We changed the fork oil level in Terry Fitzs bike TRI SERIES F3 CHAMPION

We supplied syringes to Ryan Hampton ( filled with oil not Kamikaze juice )

We added oil to Choppas forks and fitted a softer rear spring 2ND PLACE OVERALL F1 TRI SERIES

We added oil to Glen skatchills forks and change the front and rear clicker settings and preload a little TRI SERIES F2 CHAMPION

We fitted a slightly softer valving spec in Dennis Charletts rear shock, 2ND PLACE OVERALL F2 TRI SERIES

We changed the emulator setting , spring rate and oil level in Daniel Kempthornes Pro Twins spec SV650 as it had turned up with a Manfield setting that was too harsh for Wanganui

Ditto as above for Geoff Booths Pro Twins spec SV650. Please correct me if Im wrong but I think he may have finished 3rd overall in the F3 Tri series

At Haydens request Dennis installed a slightly different front fork valving spec in his compression fork. We installed a spec that we wanted to try for some time as a general test that may be applied to other bikes and his feedback was very positive. Indeed the construction of aftermarket cartridges facilatates much much quicker valving changes than oem stuff ( and I mean MUCH quicker ) and that is why we are not averse to doing so

Craig shirriffs shock was changed to one that had a much more compliant spec suitable for Wanganui., we also fitted a slightly different internal valving spec in his forks and spring rate

ETC, we also looked at bikes that were set up by another guy that the riders were very unhappy with, and made positive suggestions that they were happy with. No money changed hands and WE WILL HELP ANYONE THAT ASKS.

Are these indicative of problems? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Setting changes that wouldnt have been out of place in the environment of MotoGP, WSBK, AMA etc......


Oh, and the following day we consulted by phone on setting changes ( spring rate and clickers only ) for the rear end of Scott Moirs F2 CBR600 to comprehensively win the sprint races at the Taupo meeting. The forks werent touched.

I have never doubted the hard work you Dennis and the bike crews do at the track Robert, but Dan still kicked arse.