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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post

    I had a German girlfriend I'd ride over to see. Cruising legally at around 120mph was pretty damn good fun. The German road users did seem to understand road safety very well indeed and speed related accidents were not common.
    Ssssh...they don't want you to spread the fact that speed doesn't really kill.
    Where is this "Germany" you speak of anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yod View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    "It was only good fortune that these incidents didn't result in a serious injury or fatality."


    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...699284&ref=rss
    "It was only good fortune and the fact the rider wasn't a member of the NZ Police, that these incidents didn't result in a serious injury or fatality."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    "It was only good fortune and the fact the rider wasn't a member of the NZ Police, or near a U turning member of the NZ Polce, intent on meeting a performance target (not quota), that these incidents didn't result in a serious injury or fatality."
    sorted that for you
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    Fact is, the open road speed limit is 100km/h. Not everyone agrees with it, but it remains so.

    2nd Fact is, there are parts of roads down here that are suitable for higher speeds. Not everyone agrees with it, but it remains so.

    Most of us here won't see 200+km/h on the open road, because it's widely seen as unsafe. Yet I guarantee there is less than 10% of road riders on here that don't exceed the open road speed limit by some amount, be it 10km/h or 30. So my question is, all you people saying 200+ is ridiculous, how much over the limit have you declared to be 'safe'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Fact is, the open road speed limit is 100km/h. Not everyone agrees with it, but it remains so.

    2nd Fact is, there are parts of roads down here that are suitable for higher speeds. Not everyone agrees with it, but it remains so.

    Most of us here won't see 200+km/h on the open road, because it's widely seen as unsafe. Yet I guarantee there is less than 10% of road riders on here that don't exceed the open road speed limit by some amount, be it 10km/h or 30. So my question is, all you people saying 200+ is ridiculous, how much over the limit have you declared to be 'safe'...
    its pretty hypocritical, huh? I ride as fast as I feel like riding, but being old, and not very good, nor very clever, I have a bike that discourages "excessive speed".

    But, fucking hell, we've ALL done it: rush of blood to the head, PIN IT TO WIN IT, and some of us die, but not all of us.

    But on SH1, where numb nuts was? Just making it to easy for the po po in my view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Fact is, the open road speed limit is 100km/h. Not everyone agrees with it, but it remains so.

    2nd Fact is, there are parts of roads down here that are suitable for higher speeds. Not everyone agrees with it, but it remains so.

    Most of us here won't see 200+km/h on the open road, because it's widely seen as unsafe. Yet I guarantee there is less than 10% of road riders on here that don't exceed the open road speed limit by some amount, be it 10km/h or 30. So my question is, all you people saying 200+ is ridiculous, how much over the limit have you declared to be 'safe'...
    I think generally it is a psychological "thing" that most people "must" exceed the speed limit even if only a few km/h over. I tend to travel at "the speed the law allows", so if they have a 10km/h "tolerance", I'll usually sit on about 109 indicated, even knowing my speedo is about 3km/h fast at that speed. There is little cold logic involved in choosing one's "comfortable" speed.

    I never did find the absolute top speed of my GSX600F but did see the higher side of 210 indicated in company with a Busa and two SV1000's on a clear, deserted, straight and level main highway and exceeding 190 at times, again only on deserted clear roads with plenty of vision and in conditions I felt were safe and would not upset anyone else. I have found the top speed of my C50T, two-up with my wife who wanted to see what she'd do... Again it was a deserted, straight and level road conducive to such speeds with no-one around to witness. Incidentally that was just nudging 170km/h.

    In normal traffic conditions on normal roads and weather I am cautious to a fault and wouldn't have gone fast with anyone else on pillion either, and not if my wife hadn't both wanted to and been the kind of pillion she is...

    I don't need a radar detector and never worry about speed cameras, which shows how I normally ride/drive. I feel the big problem is that most, or at least a significant number of bikers have a far different view of speeding and feel they can safely exceed the limit in most conditions and situations without regard to other road users or consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    I think generally it is a psychological "thing" that most people "must" exceed the speed limit even if only a few km/h over.
    I'm talking about ever, not a habitual thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    I think generally it is a psychological "thing" that most people "must" exceed the speed limit even if only a few km/h over. I tend to travel at "the speed the law allows", so if they have a 10km/h "tolerance", I'll usually sit on about 109 indicated, even knowing my speedo is about 3km/h fast at that speed. There is little cold logic involved in choosing one's "comfortable" speed.

    I never did find the absolute top speed of my GSX600F but did see the higher side of 210 indicated in company with a Busa and two SV1000's on a clear, deserted, straight and level main highway and exceeding 190 at times, again only on deserted clear roads with plenty of vision and in conditions I felt were safe and would not upset anyone else. I have found the top speed of my C50T, two-up with my wife who wanted to see what she'd do... Again it was a deserted, straight and level road conducive to such speeds with no-one around to witness. Incidentally that was just nudging 170km/h.

    In normal traffic conditions on normal roads and weather I am cautious to a fault and wouldn't have gone fast with anyone else on pillion either, and not if my wife hadn't both wanted to and been the kind of pillion she is...

    I don't need a radar detector and never worry about speed cameras, which shows how I normally ride/drive. I feel the big problem is that most, or at least a significant number of bikers have a far different view of speeding and feel they can safely exceed the limit in most conditions and situations without regard to other road users or consequences.

    Just my 2c...
    Totally agree. It's not about balls and shit either, it's about being practical. No radar detector on mine either, as i am just smart enough to know when it's appropriate to speed along a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    So my question is, all you people saying 200+ is ridiculous, how much over the limit have you declared to be 'safe'...
    If there were no speed limits, I'd probably cruise at 130ish, and if I felt like a fang when there was no oncoming traffic and good visiblity, 200+ wouldn't be out of the question (would need a different bike though!).

    Perhaps another thing to think about, if the road was straight, and the bike was going like a bullet, and his bike was in reasonable condition but not warrented, (all reasonable assumptions) the chances of a biker hitting somebody else are minimal unless the other driver cocks up, and if they cock up, the inertia of a bike hitting em at 200, is still less than a car at 100.

    Of course the law is the law, and while some would be ok at speed, there are far too many numpties on the road, and the ensueing carnage would be the only way to distinguish one from the other if limits were removed. Toughen up licensing and relax on minor driving offenses I reckon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    As I originally said, he was stupid for doing those speeds when other vehicles were around, and on those straights was asking to get pulled over and banned. I wouldn’t have wanted to be around him, nor would I want to stand in front of someone throwing a steak knife (???)

    As for your first point, I agree that as you increase your speed you increase the risk. I don’t buy in to the fact that speed alone is bad though, and as a member of the 200+ club yourself I am not sure why you are getting so upset about it.
    What upsets me is that they chose a busy public main road to do it. If someone had pulled out in front of them and someone had been killed, it would have been the speed that caused it, why you may ask, because the judged distance would have been calculated at far more using the 100k speed limit as a guide. Hence forth speed would have killed. My point is, there is a time and place for these things and what these guys do reflects on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Fact is, the open road speed limit is 100km/h. Not everyone agrees with it, but it remains so.

    2nd Fact is, there are parts of roads down here that are suitable for higher speeds. Not everyone agrees with it, but it remains so.

    Most of us here won't see 200+km/h on the open road, because it's widely seen as unsafe. Yet I guarantee there is less than 10% of road riders on here that don't exceed the open road speed limit by some amount, be it 10km/h or 30. So my question is, all you people saying 200+ is ridiculous, how much over the limit have you declared to be 'safe'...
    Pretty valid points you make. Not sure what i would call safe speed for me is. I think it is very much dictated by the environment at the time.
    very well said though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubber View Post
    What upsets me is that they chose a busy public main road to do it.
    been trying to think of reasons for this behavior but failed. Best I could do was;

    the the dude had been unlicenced so his bike had been sitting idle and the WOF and Reg expires, you need a wof to get a reg and you need a working bike to get a wof so they take it for a test ride. The traffic is slow cause some plonker feels that a nice straight stretch of SH1 should only be travelled at 80k so the bikerider decides to excutes a quick overtake whilst they have good visibility and nothing oncoming, no mention of yellow lines in the report.

    This isn't an excuse just trying to understand the rider. The fact that they had only just got their licence back suggests its more likely they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    how much over the limit have you declared to be 'safe'...
    There's at least a couple of places I know of where it's perfectly safe to tap the Buell out.

    Not sure why you'd bother though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genie View Post
    Come on, the limit to keep us alive is 100kph.
    His bike was unwarranted and unregistered, though that woudl most likely be because it's not been ridden for 6 months due to his loss of licence and rather than get it road worthy and be sensible. Oh the wildness of youth.
    I haven't read all the posts, but maybe he was so excited to get his license back that he was hauling ass to go get wof'd and rego'd so he can join the Wednesday Night Ride
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