The safest country in the world for the next 50 years?

[HenryDorsetCase]

My question is actually something I've been pondering for the last three years. Reasons?

• Global population growth is heading for a disaster
• Famine, disease, and war will follow
• Invasion by refugees and people desperate for better living conditions eg. Indonesians
• We are overdue for a viral epidemic and only the developed nations have the infrastructure to isolate themselves and modern medical facilities
• Bacterial disease is also a serious threat even if slightly easier to fight
• Diseases know no borders - crossing land is simple.
• A safe country has sea borders which makes invasion by large numbers difficult.
• A sea border is also a natural barrier to disease. Airports and harbours can be closed.
• A safe country has to be far enough away across the sea to be difficult to reach
• It would also not have valuable minerals and resources so its even less attractive to try to get to.

Sooo......where? Madagascar? Iceland? Japan? Malta? Crete.......?

You should totally download and watch THE WALKING DEAD ... with that train of thought, you'd love it.


serious answer: Tasmania or Crete.

[puddytat]

My question is actually something I've been pondering for the last three years. Reasons?

• Global population growth is heading for a disaster
• Famine, disease, and war will follow
• Invasion by refugees and people desperate for better living conditions eg. Indonesians
• We are overdue for a viral epidemic and only the developed nations have the infrastructure to isolate themselves and modern medical facilities
• Bacterial disease is also a serious threat even if slightly easier to fight
• Diseases know no borders - crossing land is simple.
• A safe country has sea borders which makes invasion by large numbers difficult.
• A sea border is also a natural barrier to disease. Airports and harbours can be closed.
• A safe country has to be far enough away across the sea to be difficult to reach
• It would also not have valuable minerals and resources so its even less attractive to try to get to.

Sooo......where? Madagascar? Iceland? Japan? Malta? Crete.......?

Yah forgot about here bro, its got all of the above
I reckon we should change our marketing slogan from "Clean & Green NZ" to "Clean & Green & the Only Place Left".
Get the dole bludgers building a chainlink razor wire fence round it....

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yah forgot about here bro, its got all of the above
I reckon we should change our marketing slogan from "Clean & Green NZ" to "Clean & Green & the Only Place Left".
Get the dole bludgers building a chainlink razor wire fence round it....

except, thanks to Uncle Helen, no realistic way to defend itself from a horde of muslim indonesians from ooop nooorth trying to take our jobs, women, and primary produce sectors, and impose retarded stone age sharia law.

http://stealthsurvival.blogspot.com/...alist-101.html

[puddytat]

except, thanks to Uncle Helen, no realistic way to defend itself from a horde of muslim indonesians from ooop nooorth trying to take our jobs, women, and primary produce sectors, and impose retarded stone age sharia law.

http://stealthsurvival.blogspot.com/...alist-101.html

Yeah I know, but we could soon change that.....
Im not trying to be smart but I really think that there needs to be discussion on the points brought up by Winston....are our fearless leaders planning on any of these possible scenarios? Are we going to be Humanitarian & open our doors to all & sundry when they start coming by the Frieghter full, or are we going to say fuck off & wave sticks at them?

[scumdog]

We're full, piss off. Try Balclutha.

We're waay too dangerous...try Kaitangata..

[Elysium]

The world is only going to get worse if the population keeps increasing.

[blackdog]

I wouldn't worry about Australia. Their lack of water ...

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[mashman]

The Galapagos, Middle of what's left of the Amazon, A mountain top in Canada, pretty much anywhere in Siberia, The Falklands, The Arctic... there's loads of places to go, just don't be anywhere near "civilisation"

[HenryDorsetCase]

The Galapagos, Middle of what's left of the Amazon, A mountain top in Canada, pretty much anywhere in Siberia, The Falklands, The Arctic... there's loads of places to go, just don't be anywhere near "civilisation"

cool, I'm off to the North Shore.


....................what?

[mashman]

cool, I'm off to the North Shore.


....................what?

let me know how that works out for ya

[pete376403]

except, thanks to Uncle Helen, no realistic way to defend itself from a horde of muslim indonesians from ooop nooorth trying to take our jobs, women, and primary produce sectors, and impose retarded stone age sharia law.

http://stealthsurvival.blogspot.com/...alist-101.html

You really think our little collection of antique skyhawks and aermacchi trainers could keep anyone out?

There's 238 million Indonesians - they could just "human wave" us till our ammo ran out, then we'd be wide open to the 237 million that were left. Our best hope is that they invade Aussie first and get lost somewhere in the desert.

[Elysium]

except, thanks to Uncle Helen, no realistic way to defend itself from a horde of muslim indonesians from ooop nooorth trying to take our jobs, women, and primary produce sectors, and impose retarded stone age sharia law.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uORAyORWRAA

[Winston001]

You really think our little collection of antique skyhawks and aermacchi trainers could keep anyone out?

There's 238 million Indonesians - they could just "human wave" us till our ammo ran out, then we'd be wide open to the 237 million that were left. Our best hope is that they invade Aussie first and get lost somewhere in the desert.

...Are we going to be Humanitarian & open our doors to all & sundry when they start coming by the Frieghter full, or are we going to say fuck off & wave sticks at them?

I think we are reasonably safe because NZ is an obscure nation compared with Australia. We are also protected by 1800km of rough southern ocean. The proof of that is we haven't had any refugee boats from Asia whereas for the Australians it has been a constant problem since the end of the Vietnam War.

The other thing is transporting large numbers of people is very difficult. Roads make refugee and military movement easy but oceans are a wall.

The Galapagos, Middle of what's left of the Amazon, A mountain top in Canada, pretty much anywhere in Siberia, The Falklands, The Arctic... there's loads of places to go, just don't be anywhere near "civilisation"

Mmm sort of - there are plenty of areas of wilderness but they are desolate for a reason. Hard to get to and tough to live in. Plus you'd have to count on all the other people who have the same idea...

I don't for a moment believe there is any risk to all mankind. Many (perhaps 2 billion) will survive and it will be the ones with "civilisation". My question is really to determine a country which has enough resources, modern technology and hard for teeming millions to enter.

[Tink]

The world is only going to get worse if the population keeps increasing.

Tell that to Andrew he just baby number 8...

As the children grow through their teens, a chaps mind turns to the importance of preserving the genetic pool. As you do.

So here I am telling my kids they should expect to work in Australia or Europe etc and not to restrict their careers to NZ. The opportunities in a global economy for young educated OECD people are awesome.

Then it occurred to me that Oz is potentially threatened by 238 million Indonesians who would love to move there. The rest of the developed world is two masses of land - Europe and America. If a war or disease broke out, borders won't matter, they are easily crossed.

I need my genetic offspring to be safe and spread the seed. So where is the best and safest place to live in the world in the coming 50 years?

Winston, my attitude is teach your kids to preserve, and not to go out and have babies cause its so easy to be on the DPB, get an education, and look after number 1... my girls will travel, they are half Danish they have too. PS They have an awesome structure in Scandinavia... you actually have to work for the dole!!!!!!!!

[scissorhands]

NZ could be better, but in comparison with the much smaller isolated island nations, we could be top of the safe and developed list.

Our SAS has earned a reputation as well as other military endeavours, so we could now be a target for a strike.

2 hours away from AK, Well, Ch Ch or Dunedin should be fine in that regard. Even Piha (40min from Queen St) over the ranges would prolly be safe