Who is sick of all the Waitangi bullshit?

[Swoop]

...where the fuck are my vintage firearms? I could get a few quid for them

You'll have to send some norvern munkies up to the manor!

[avgas]

No ... the name means "Crying Waters" Tangi is cry and Wai is water .. Whai means many things, the most common usage is Stingray

There is a Steve Irwin joke in there somewhere - I swear.

[Gremlin]

Are you talking about our MPs ???

Them too... Anyone coming up with such half baked bullshit... I find myself sitting there going... who actually came up with this crap? Is that all they ever do? Why can't they get busy in a productive job, and leave the average working person alone?

[SMOKEU]

Before ya'll start giving me red rep for this, Waitangi Day is more or less Maori pride day - white people should also have our own day to express our heritage.

[lone_slayer]

I would just be happy if we all just considered ourselves 1 people... Stop the racisim and have everyone treated equally....
on that note i have an aunty who lives in a rural area her kids had to go to bording school and she had to pay. The family down the road were Maori and did not for the same schooling. I dont know anyone who in the same position would turn down that sort of goverment assistance maori or pakeha. another great example is during my uni days lots of friend were paying to become teachers, yet the goverment were paying maoris to do the same work.... wheres the equal opportunity there? And on my last note of the day I have not met a Maori who thinks our system is fair they know they get an extra hand out in some situations but they are not gonna ask the goverment to take it away.

[marie_speeds]

Before ya'll start giving me red rep for this, Waitangi Day is more or less Maori pride day - white people should also have our own day to express our heritage.

Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.....

[admenk]

Before ya'll start giving me red rep for this, Waitangi Day is more or less Maori pride day - white people should also have our own day to express our heritage.

Oh good, a burning cross - seen that before somewhere havn't we? Always a good image to show us white folks in a good light. That's part of my "white heritage" I'd rather not celebrate thanks

[Buyasta]

Before ya'll start giving me red rep for this, Waitangi Day is more or less Maori pride day - white people should also have our own day to express our heritage.

And what about those who belong to some other racial minority than Maori, what do they get?.. Obviously those of Jewish, Asian, or African descent won't be welcome at your white power rally.

[george formby]

I would just be happy if we all just considered ourselves 1 people... Stop the racisim and have everyone treated equally....
on that note i have an aunty who lives in a rural area her kids had to go to bording school and she had to pay. The family down the road were Maori and did not for the same schooling. I dont know anyone who in the same position would turn down that sort of goverment assistance maori or pakeha. another great example is during my uni days lots of friend were paying to become teachers, yet the goverment were paying maoris to do the same work.... wheres the equal opportunity there? And on my last note of the day I have not met a Maori who thinks our system is fair they know they get an extra hand out in some situations but they are not gonna ask the goverment to take it away.

Positive discrimination for the bleeding hearts.

Watching the news on the Maori channel last night it was heartening for me to see reporting which showed polar opposite Ngapuhi reactions to the Koha imposed on reporting from the Marae. One guy was justifying it for the clean up, another bloke was livid at the stupidity of it. Not a Pakeha perspective in sight. The apparent divisions cannot be laid solely at the door of race, opinions & disagreements are happening at a family & generational level in our communities.

If any group is to be pilloried it should (again) be the media for head lining what is the most shocking & entertaining rather than what affects the state of our Nation or even worse, decades of Government which has pandered to whichever group will vote & keep them in power, maintaining the political & social pendulum swinging & the Parliamentary / bureaucratic gravy train steaming along.

I'm not sick of Waitangi Day, it shows the best & worst aspects of New Zealand people, together or apart, but I am sick of small, very vocal groups using it as a soap box for their self serving, dead end agendas. It's the one day of the year that brats of any heritage can make a noise & somebody listens.
But I guess that is the price of democracy, warts & all.

For me Waitangi Day is a celebration of all New Zealanders, their achievements, failures, hopes & fears. We need it.

[marie_speeds]

I don't particularily like violence and war nor commemoration or celebration of it so I reckon get rid of Anzac Day too.....
Not particularly religious so Easter and Christmas has to go.........
Not part of a trade union so that rules out Labour Weekend....
and not really a rolyalist so lets get rid of Queens Birthday while we're at it..........

[Paul in NZ]

Without a doubt there are some serious issues that are still unresolved. Before everyone gets all het up you need to know that Maori were ripped off seriously by the govt of the day on many occasions and sometimes within living memory.

FFS - we get angry and ride to parliament over a few $$ - these poor cunts had millions of $$ stolen from them and are still pissed off about it... About the only way they can show that is via these dumb stunts.

HOWEVER - progress has been made and I think most agree that on the whole the govt is actually serious about addressing the issue. Thats something pretty special and should be applauded.

IMHO - we should keep Waitangi Day but not use it to celebrate out nationhood - we are now too diverse for such a day. Waitangi Day should be remembered and maybe it should be a day for maori and the Govt to measure and report on the progress made BUT we need a New Zealand Day - a day on a date with no history where we can ALL celebrate living in the best damn country on the planet!

[buellbabe]

Oh good, a burning cross - seen that before somewhere havn't we? Always a good image to show us white folks in a good light. That's part of my "white heritage" I'd rather not celebrate thanks

Theres no ferkin burning cross in MY heritage thankyou very much.

I'm just proud to call myself a kiwi.

And yep, I AM sick of the Waitangi Day bullshit, wasn't the treaty supposed to mark an 'end to hostilities' ??? What happened in the past should remain there.

Maybe I would feel differently if my ancestors had gotten a raw deal but the thing is that it wasn't ordinary NZrs ripping off the Maori of the time, it was the Government/ruling Monarchy.

[george formby]

Without a doubt there are some serious issues that are still unresolved. Before everyone gets all het up you need to know that Maori were ripped off seriously by the govt of the day on many occasions and sometimes within living memory.

FFS - we get angry and ride to parliament over a few $$ - these poor cunts had millions of $$ stolen from them and are still pissed off about it... About the only way they can show that is via these dumb stunts.

HOWEVER - progress has been made and I think most agree that on the whole the govt is actually serious about addressing the issue. Thats something pretty special and should be applauded.

IMHO - we should keep Waitangi Day but not use it to celebrate out nationhood - we are now too diverse for such a day. Waitangi Day should be remembered and maybe it should be a day for maori and the Govt to measure and report on the progress made BUT we need a New Zealand Day - a day on a date with no history where we can ALL celebrate living in the best damn country on the planet!

+1 Sminky idea.

[Banditbandit]

Before ya'll start giving me red rep for this, Waitangi Day is more or less Maori pride day - white people should also have our own day to express our heritage.

Waitangi Day remembers the day the Founding Document of our nation was signed . in 1835 the Declaration of Independence established, in international law, a new country called New Zealand - called that as a national name by the Maori signers ... five years later the Treaty of Waitangi established the modern nation as a partnership between Pakeha and Maori - it is NOT a Maori-pride day ...

Oh good, a burning cross - seen that before somewhere havn't we? Always a good image to show us white folks in a good light. That's part of my "white heritage" I'd rather not celebrate thanks

Yes, exactly ... thank you for that response

[Banditbandit]

And yep, I AM sick of the Waitangi Day bullshit, wasn't the treaty supposed to mark an 'end to hostilities' ??? What happened in the past should remain there.

That's a mis-conception. The hostilities started AFTER the Treaty was signed, because the white settlers failed to observe the treaty - treaty signed in 1840 - first hostile act 1844 - major New Zealand Wars around 1860 to 1900 ...