Crown accounts $14bn worse off

[onearmedbandit]

Perhaps it's a vote of no confidence. They might feel that no matter which way they vote, they'll get shat on from above.

Good point, and no doubt to a degree very valid.

[p.dath]

Yeah .. there is .. the Nats bought their way into power with tax cuts - and they then had to replace that lost income with borrowing ...

Perhaps you have a short memory. Both Labour and National campaigned on providing tax cuts.

[admenk]

Maybe there should be a minimum voter turnout level set before the election becomes valid. That way we could register our disapproval of the choice (or lack of) on offer. Only question is who governs while we're waiting for a high enough turnout...

[Bald Eagle]

Well the countries economy is smaller than some companies, appoint a ceo and board of directors ( 12 people max ) huge saving .....problem solved no more politics.

[mashman]

And the barstards practice monetarist economics ... which is about the worst way to run an economy ...

wot he said

All we need now is Labours lolly bag election winning strategy to kick in and we will be truly fucked.

There's a difference between being fucked and financially raped

[mashman]

so you're saying that 740,000 people don't give a fuck about politics .....

i'm guessing 740k have voted by not voting... and the not giving a shit about politics is just a symptom

[Drunken Monkey]

Well the countries economy is smaller than some companies, appoint a ceo and board of directors ( 12 people max ) huge saving .....problem solved no more politics.

What do we do with people we want to make redundant? Send them to South America?

[Bald Eagle]

What do we do with people we want to make redundant? Send them to South America?

or somewhere north of the arctic circle - lots of empty space up there.

[Quasievil]

I vote those on the social welfare system dont get a vote, only those employed that pay for the life challenged get a vote, those are the people being fucked over by having to pay the handouts, the life challenged merely look for the biggest offer to enhance their parasitic lifestyle.
And yes they exist 5000 parasites in the Waikato alone have been on the benefit for over ten years, thats a parasite.

This country is suffering from the gravy train politics of enabling every minority / cause / life challenged person / group with a cause .....to suckle on the tit of the working citizen and frankly it has to stop, and it has to stop now.

Additionally while Im at it, we have the population of a city and the political structure of a large country that is paralyzed with the disfunctional and agenda riddled MMP system...........this to has to stop, it prevents progress.

And finally, any party that dont / cant run this country like a business suck because thats what it is people, its all about money, and if this country cant make it well then its over

[Blackflagged]

Don't buy into the national bullshit about labour - or labour's bullshit about national ...

Here's an interesting treasury paper ...

http://www.treasury.govt.nz/governme...d/jun10/09.htm

Have a look under Debt .. it shows that our net debt was falling from 2001 to 2008 .. then the Nats came in .. and guess what - debt is rising again ...

It also shows we've gone from a $2billion Govt surplus in 2008 (Labour Gvt) to a $9billion Govt deficit in 2010. Sure, some of that can be blammed on the world economy - but soem of it is the responsibility of the Govt - who aren't decreasing spending at all.

These figures speak stronger than political rhetoric ..

So, which is the party of the lolly scramble? - remember the Nats promised tax cuts ... and paid for them by borrowing ...

That links graph shows a % of GDP so when the ecomony goes to shit (and things just got worse) gdp falls the debt% of gdp goes up, no matter who`s running the place.
And they payed for the cuts with a GST Rise.
Also have a look at govt spending between 2001-2008

[mashman]

I vote those on the social welfare system dont get a vote, only those employed that pay for the life challenged get a vote, those are the people being fucked over by having to pay the handouts, the life challenged merely look for the biggest offer to enhance their parasitic lifestyle.
And yes they exist 5000 parasites in the Waikato alone have been on the benefit for over ten years, thats a parasite.

This country is suffering from the gravy train politics of enabling every minority / cause / life challenged person / group with a cause .....to suckle on the tit of the working citizen and frankly it has to stop, and it has to stop now.

Additionally while Im at it, we have the population of a city and the political structure of a large country that is paralyzed with the disfunctional and agenda riddled MMP system...........this to has to stop, it prevents progress.

And finally, any party that dont / cant run this country like a business suck because thats what it is people, its all about money, and if this country cant make it well then its over

So, they're gettin money for free, so do you with bank interest... sounds fair to me. What's the alternative?

Agreed with the gravy train politics and money/jobs for the boys agendas.

If you want to run the country like a business, you need to think smarter than the rest of the world. The only way NZ can successfully compete in the global marketplace, is for the entire country to pool its resources... but we won't do that, because we're too fuckin precious about what we've earned... aye, run it like a business, that'll work

[Quasievil]

So, they're gettin money for free, so do you with bank interest... sounds fair to me. What's the alternative?

Agreed with the gravy train politics and money/jobs for the boys agendas.

If you want to run the country like a business, you need to think smarter than the rest of the world. The only way NZ can successfully compete in the global marketplace, is for the entire country to pool its resources... but we won't do that, because we're too fuckin precious about what we've earned... aye, run it like a business, that'll work

Bank interest ? thats assuming I have a balance, most people struggle when it comes to banking spare cash as we are to busy propping up the gravy train with taxes, that goes for more than the social welfare system, consultants to the government, Maori and other PC crap costs us a fortune. Not to mention we a radically underpaid.
Pool resources? like how tho ?
We can for a start make it easier to do business here the red tape blockages are not favorable for new business ventures......resource consent, corporate tax rate for a start

[mashman]

Bank interest ? thats assuming I have a balance, most people struggle when it comes to banking spare cash as we are to busy propping up the gravy train with taxes, that goes for more than the social welfare system, consultants to the government, Maori and other PC crap costs us a fortune. Not to mention we a radically underpaid.
Pool resources? like how tho ?
We can for a start make it easier to do business here the red tape blockages are not favorable for new business ventures......resource consent, corporate tax rate for a start

heh, I hear you in regards to the interest and paying for the "undesirable", although not the undesirables you're talking about. They don't contribute to society and when I look at society, I can't say I blame them. Why bother if you're essentially getting nothing for something.

Pooling resources, as in throw all of our money in Kiwibank for 1. Share our jobs for another. Similar to car pooling using less fuel, causing less wear on the roads, or buying a jug of beer between 5 instead of single beers each. Same principle, some have a better car, some have more money for beer, some have better management skills, some are better grafters etc... I'm sure you will point out why the above isn't possible...

Smarter, not looser ...

[EJK]

So.... whats the forecast for NZX 50? Will the rugby worldcup give any boost?

[Quasievil]

heh, I hear you in regards to the interest and paying for the "undesirable", although not the undesirables you're talking about. They don't contribute to society and when I look at society, I can't say I blame them. Why bother if you're essentially getting nothing for something.

yeah but watch them change when the system changes

Pooling resources, as in throw all of our money in Kiwibank for 1.

Maybe but Kiwibank arent interested in business banking, its the peoples bank, things need to change there (im currently with Kiwibank as I thought the same)